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    Quote Originally Posted by Phat-Customs View Post
    I have emailed Island4X4 twice in the past 3 days, looking to get a quote on freight for a few items I added to my cart, still waiting for a reply, I think I might take might shopping list to DLS and see how competitive they are.

    On topic: The AFM has been unplugged for over a week now, and done a fair few kays, I am blown away with the performance of the TD5 with this thing removed, it leads me to believe that its always been a bit dicey, and that its slowly getting worse, I was never WOWED with the performance of the TD5, and now I suspect I know why.

    I am however, careful not to utilise too much of the new ponies, incase it causes some damage with the AFM removed.
    I'm pretty sure with the MAF unplugged the ECU uses a default MAP table programmed into the ECU. The idea is the car can still run without the MAF without causing damage. If you think it is good now, wait until you get your new MAF and it actually runs efficiently.

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    No harm will be done with the MAF unplugged believe me, it was conceived to work on default mode without damage, only the consumption is a bit greater than with a perfectly working one

    if you want parts from UK check out these guys Land Rover Parts and Spares Direct i've purchased bits from them for around 3000GBP in the last 3 years and it's the best supplier i've ever dealed with, they also have that "lowest price promise" program which worked for me not once, also you'll see the shipping cost instantly before checkout... they have the widest offer from more suppliers so concentrate to "Brand" when you order. Good luck
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    No harm will be done with the MAF unplugged believe me, it was conceived to work on default mode without damage, only the consumption is a bit greater than with a perfectly working one
    Good luck
    Hey Sierrafery, heres looking at you mate,

    SO my buddy has a similar D2 to mine, same year, HSE, few more kays, buy well under 200K.
    He has recently fitted a De-Cat down pipe, and center muffler removal pipe to his Disco, soon after, he was comaplining of a "miss" and, as he had been having trouble with Oil Ingress, had a new in-head harness fitted, as he thought that was more than likley the cause.

    Well, turns out, that his MAF may have **** also? The 'miss' he was complaining of, turned out to be more of a flat spot, just off boost, that made the car almost undriveble, and when he explained it to me, it sounded JUST like the problem I was having!!!

    Anyway, He had a new Siemens MAF fitted by LR workshop, and whadaya know, still undrievable...

    I then told him to unplug the MAF alltogether, and BOOM! perfectly driveable again...

    WTF?!?


    • Has the MAF failed??? It would appear not, as a replacement MAF didnt fix it?!?
    • Has MY MAF failed??? Possibly not? Same Symptom, am I wasting money throwing a new MAF at mine???
    • Same Mods? Does the reduction in Exhaust back pressure from removing the CAT do something to the system, and throw it into chaos??? Or, does removing the CAT hightlight un underlying problem that was always present????????


    Really need some answers here, does unplugging the MAF just bandaid fix a bigger, nastier deeper problem?

    Unsure...

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    Is your or/and your friend's ECM remapped?, also to not read the whole thread again, EGR is bypassed?
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Egr is bypassed on both trucks.
    I doubt either ECM has been remapped, both trucks stock-as-a-rock when purchased. I would be 99.999% sure that the ECM's are standard.

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    Ok, are the EGR modulators electrically unplugged too?, if not do that and isolate well the plug against earth , if this is covered as well i dont see any reason why the car runs well on default mode but not with a faultless MAF unless there's some wiring issue in the plug which alters the MAF signal when it's plugged in, quite unlikely, more possible i that the new MAF fitted to your friend's car was DOA or something cos as i understood you didnt fit a new one yet... i can't give other explanation right now, for more detailed answer i need a live data log like you posted cos if you remember i've suspected the MAF on yours based on some strange readings

    so i dont know what to say about that but i can't find more logical explanations, if i was you i'd try with a known good MAF though

    as an additional information, just found out and seems very interesting so i'll test it on my own car as i can afford though i can't recommend you to do that on your money but it seems that there's a same shape MAF used on other cars: VDO p/n 5WK9608Z which is listed as indirect cross interchange part for the genuine MHK100620 but has a wider curve at the middle air flow range which should overcome such issues also it is used on D2s by reliable remappers for some remaps to be smoother...
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Can only speak for my own vehicle here, but the EGR modulator is still plugged in. I was under the impression that a code was logged if it were unplugged.

    Strangely enough, I don't get any codes running with the MAF unplugged. Nothing that shows up on the Nanocom at least.

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    That's definitely not normal for standard ECM, you should have got" EGR stuck closed" fault code if it's blanked even if it's plugged just that then the solenoid can put unnecesary drain on the MAF and wastegate modulator's circuit also an "air flow circuit" fault code for unplugged MAF... the only logical deduction i can make is that the ECM is remapped with an unproper map or there's some glitch in the "software" .what's the ECM part number and the last 8 characters of your VIN?
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    I have a big miss just off idle with same mods. It's hard to find as you normally drive past it. Otherwise drives fine. So earthing the egr plug is the go? Thought that might short something when it tries to open.

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    Why would blanking the EGR give me a fault code? As far as the ECM is concerned it still thinks it's connected as I have the egr solenoid still connected.

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