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    Headgasket YAY

    well folks, the head gasket bug finally got my beasty. i suppose it has been happening the whole time since i left my emergency repair tiny hose on there for i think 8/9 months rather than a few days which eventually melted off the expansion tank and coolant went off on its own adventure without my car. (i had broken the hose in the first place when trying to get the air box back is as had pulled it out to clean the gunk and mud out of it) so car overheated well guage moved a tiny bit and car shut itself off. but i am guessing damage was done thanks to the wonderful idea of plastic dowels (can someone please explain to me why this happens as the bolts should hold it in place shouldnt they?) but since then i have been chasing coolant leaks which i assumed were just because its done 330000 kms now and hoses etc get old. the system had been slowly over pressurizing. then finally a hose split, car got extremely hot as it happened so fast the car didnt even know it was hot it just died before guage even moved! and since then coolant pushed out expansion tank, and im all like noooooo. being disabled, my car is the only one i can drive, it gives me an independence that when its disco down, that little bit of independence is gone had some wishful thinking of it just being radiator, thermostat or water pump or just the tank cap. but alas, got the car checked and yep head gasket confirmed.

    so now open heart surgery has begun. poor car is looking bit sorry for itself and i am mourning my downed comrade. the head should be ready to pick up today after being checked and checked again and having valves reseated etc. one plastic dowel was in 2 pieces, the other had some fancy sideways jig going on. pics included in this thread can tell which cylinder was getting a bit of moisture thanks to a bit of surface rust!

    so now my question is landrovians, those whom have done this as well, what do you recommend checking/replacing whilst the head is off. as when my car is back together i do not want it to be in the sick bay again for a very long time! i also do not know how to tell which sized head gasket it is, one hole, two hole or three hole. i have been googling through this forum but there is a lot of different stuff, and then a lot of defender stuff, so i am not sure on what is same and different between the td5s in defenders and discos. plus in starting another thread on the topic, its another source of valuable information for the next person bitten by the head gasket bug.

    plastic dowels will not be returning to my vehicle, the metal one will be going in!
    i also know the head bolts will need to be replaced.
    i am hoping to god timing is ok! its locked in the top dead centre place so fingers and toes crossed all is good there!
    checking welshplugs might be a good idea too, had one replaced/fixed 7 weeks ago ish. well it was that weird looking welsh plug

    so here are some piccies, and thankyou in advance folks

    oh i do have a rave disc but its gone to that magical place that is supposed to be a safe place, then vanishes without a trace.








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    You haven't had much luck lately!
    That little hose under the Exhaust manifold should be replaced without exception. That little $10 piece of rubber nearly cost me a head gasket $&???!!!!
    If funds permit I would definety replace the water pump and thermostat with Gen/OEM Parts and flush the radiator.
    If you don't replace the water pump at least remove it and check the drive tangs aren't broken and that the pump works correctly.

    Good luck ! Are you doing the work yourself?

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    no kidding i am a magnet for bad stuff, always have been. i think i must have been very bad person in a previous life, because i dont do anythign bad, always helping anyone who needs it best i can and still get rotten deal LOL!

    that tiny little hose is what split when this all happened! so that is a new hose

    water pump is a very good idea! as that is easy to get to whilst off. have a thermostat ready to go in too.
    yep work is being done at home. cant afford to use the professionals, and after the manifold saga least doing it at home know that stuff isnt going to get stolen!even though i know cannot put all professionals in the same basket just because one place is suss. have only ever done old holden v8 headgaskets before, and old 4cyl mazda haha. this is really different compared to those.

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    Gasket size is determined by looking at the front (Timing cover end) drivers side of the old gasket, where there will be a series of holes 1 hole, 2 holes or three, that tells you what gasket to get.
    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    Gasket size is determined by looking at the front (Timing cover end) drivers side of the old gasket, where there will be a series of holes 1 hole, 2 holes or three, that tells you what gasket to get.
    Nick

    I may be wrong but isn't there also a gasket size with no hole. Seem to recall reading it somewhere.


    Cheers Ean

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    dowels are required to stop the head from moving around , the plastic ones are known to crumble . the one in the photo has shown your head has moved allowing gasket to fail , there are only three sizes of gasket available
    1 hole = 1.27mm
    2 hole = 1.20mm
    3 hole = 1.35mm
    if you are unable to determine as pippin described which size , post a photo of the gasket and i will tell you , gasket thickness is determined by piston height above the block ( do you have access to a dial gauge or accurate verniers ?)

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    Hi Ean,


    From what I have read there are only the 3 sizes available.


    Cheers
    Nick

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    I think in the second photo you can see that it is a 1 hole gasket.


    Cheers
    Nick

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    While you have it removed i would have the intake manifold cleaned by the engine shop

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    i will get a photo of the head gasket later, theres no gasket on there in any of those piccies.
    the inlet manifold should be ok as car came with egr blanking valve but will check it whilst it is off.
    have a dial guage somewhere if i can find it!

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