Thread: Flashing M & S

You really need to get some proper diagnosis done using a diagnostic scan tool like nanocom etc. Check the members with diagnostic equipment section for your nearest one. Many of these faults while actually driving along are also to do with actual transmission problems like tc lock clutch failure or a clutch set with excessive clearances . I have to warn you that 200k is getting close to the 4hp22e gearboxes' end of lifespan.

I don't seem to be able to find that section

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Lots of info here about MS lights,, pretty common thing as these cars get older. As long as you dont have to replace the switch the fix is usually fairly cheap.

Hi bov17
I have been through this before with my MY02 D2 with the MS lamps,
I had went to the trouble of taking my XYZ switch apart and cleaning it etc, (nothing wrong here, but felt good to check), if you decide to do this, note you should not be able to start your D2 in any gear other than in the P position.

Back to your MS lamps, if it is any thing like what I have experienced,
Give your main battery a full charge and give it another go,
failing this, replace your main battery!
You may find you have the cranking amps to start your D2 but the charge holding capacity of your battery maybe depleted.

I recommend to give this a go first

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

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Lots of info here about MS lights,, pretty common thing as these cars get older. As long as you dont have to replace the switch the fix is usually fairly cheap.

Thanks for that

Originally Posted by apachefreak

Hi bov17
I have been through this before with my MY02 D2 with the MS lamps,
I had went to the trouble of taking my XYZ switch apart and cleaning it etc, (nothing wrong here, but felt good to check), if you decide to do this, note you should not be able to start your D2 in any gear other than in the P position.

Back to your MS lamps, if it is any thing like what I have experienced,
Give your main battery a full charge and give it another go,
failing this, replace your main battery!
You may find you have the cranking amps to start your D2 but the charge holding capacity of your battery maybe depleted.

I recommend to give this a go first

I will borrow a good multistage charger and give it a charge and see where it goes.

I think for prosperity I might replace it anyway.

Originally Posted by bov17

N70ZZMF is what's in it.

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Smaller than the LR recommended battery. LR recommend 110 AH capacity.

N70 is around 90 AH.

There are 18 ''official'' reasons for flashing M+S warnings, 15 of them are together with limp mode, 2 with no aparent effect and 1 which will let it operate only in economy mode... low battery power and XYZ switch are the most common but it's possible to be any of the many so the best is to read the stored fault code and if there isnt one it means it's battery voltage or old/low oil related

the list of faults is in in RAVE - Workshop manual - Automatic gearbox - Operation (DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION 44-19)/(page 816 in my version)