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Thread: Auto Box question ? Can you program the box ECU ?

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    Auto Box question ? Can you program the box ECU ?

    I don't like how the d2 td5 will kick down on a hill and the poor little diesel revs to 4000 ,
    WHY there is no toque there ,, best stay at 3400 rpm and cruise up ,,,,
    seems to happen an the slightest of rise ?

    no wonder the poor boxes blow up they never know what gear they want to be in ,,,,up2 down 1 back up to 3rd then down again the only time it plays nice is over 80kph when locked up ??

    must me a programming thing ?

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    IMO first of all better put new oil and filter in it to be ruled out and run a stall test to rule out a mechanical issue then if it passes the test think to ECU things, afaik the only thing you can do to the EAT ECU is to reset addaptive settings not to alter them, an engine management remap would be the good move if you want "cojones"
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    The other thing to check is the condition and output of the airflow meter. This helps calculate an engine load signal to the trans ecu basically. Shift points can be all over the show if it is out to lunch...

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    It is a stupid box, it really needs an extra gear or 2 to keep in the correct rev range. You eventually learn how to drive it to get it to behave, but it's unlike any auto I've ever driven, definitely not as good as a Jap box.

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    Funny you should not mention the fact that on hills at 60 kph plus the trans will lock up in third after a short time and not drop out until under 50.

    On the flat it will lock up over 70kmh in third and drop out at 60kmh.

    Even if you are in D it will do this. Maybe you are not allowing it the few seconds it needs.

    If anything I find while towing my camper that it holds 3 lock too long causing speed loss, then it has to drop to second.
    All in all I now find it as good a box as you could have with only 4 speeds as the locks provide 2 extra gear ratios.
    It took me a long time to fully understand how it works but now that I know I find it adequate .
    Regards Philip A

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    new box new filter new oil ,,

    new box new filter new oil ,,

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    True ,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by CU55TM Disco View Post
    It is a stupid box, it really needs an extra gear or 2 to keep in the correct rev range. You eventually learn how to drive it to get it to behave, but it's unlike any auto I've ever driven, definitely not as good as a Jap box.

    Our Tickford fairlane has the ZF4-HB22 and its crap also ,,,, up down ,,never knows what gear to be in ,,,

    even a TH350 or a 727 toque flight 727 would have been a better box from the 70`s .
    i had a 727 in a 245 ci inter scout was the smoothest box i have driven ,

    I hope when i do a ECU remap it will help things out a bit ,,, yesterday went up the same hill 4 times at the same speed ,,
    never the same gear

    I remember seeing a gearbox aftermarker ECU some where ,,just cant remember where ,, maybe an ashcroft ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Funny you should not mention the fact that on hills at 60 kph plus the trans will lock up in third after a short time and not drop out until under 50.

    On the flat it will lock up over 70kmh in third and drop out at 60kmh.

    Even if you are in D it will do this. Maybe you are not allowing it the few seconds it needs.

    If anything I find while towing my camper that it holds 3 lock too long causing speed loss, then it has to drop to second.
    All in all I now find it as good a box as you could have with only 4 speeds as the locks provide 2 extra gear ratios.
    It took me a long time to fully understand how it works but now that I know I find it adequate .
    Regards Philip A
    "Even if you are in D it will do this" I'm not sure whether this is true but certainly you get lock up in third when the gear shift is in third as you say. I agree it's a good box once you get to know it but I think it is important that all sensors etc are working correctly for it to perform well.
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    Since fitting the Ashcroft HD torque converter I find the automatic transmission on my TD5 to be great.

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    There are no fault codes in the trans at all ,,,

    It just can never make up its mind if it want to change into a gear that there is 4000 revs waiting or lock into a gear until the toque curve has dropped into the gutter and then un locks and has to go down 2 gears <<
    There must be a better algorithm for the box to stay in the toque curve

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