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    Can't find it!

    I was given an eraser once, upon it it read;
    "I thinked and thinked and thought and thunk
    but still came up with the same old bunk"

    So, I've looked and looked but can't find the answer to my question.

    I have a 2003 DIIA with centre diff, not working!

    External mechanism OK even disconnected the cable and moved lever by hand, it felt like it traveled too far but that could have been my imagination.

    I have a 1999/2000 with centre diff, can I change it over and is it all in the nosecone on the TC?

    This car is at the same time the best and the worst Disco I've had but I'm happy to have it.

    Oh, while we are looking for advice, double cardan joint, one U/J buggered, what is the best fix for this, repair or is there an upgrade that is affordable?

    Regards

    Mike

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    Was it working before?
    Here is a diagram of the internals for the CDL.

    http://landroverclubvi.weebly.com/up...482005.jpg?818

    I would suggest the CDL does not need to be replaced, as they are very robust.
    My first point of inspection would be to check the cable sheath is secured correctly both ends then the engagement fork (21)which is essentially spring (18) activated once the selector has been activated ,

    Check the detent (15-12-13)adjustment and if no joy pull the side cover to see the selector fork and spring.

    ...and "The Good Oil" https://www.aulro.com/afvb/good-oil/...an-joints.html
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    Are you sure it's not working, you've actually checked by moving the wheels? It could be the indicator light not working, most likely electrical near the switch.

    Double cardan is rebuildable, discovery2.co.uk has the instructions and part numbers. It's a bit of a 4 handed job for the cardan itself but doable. I think it was about $150 for all the parts about 5 years ago here in Adelaide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_a View Post
    Are you sure it's not working, you've actually checked by moving the wheels? It could be the indicator light not working, most likely electrical near the switch.

    Double cardan is rebuildable, discovery2.co.uk has the instructions and part numbers. It's a bit of a 4 handed job for the cardan itself but doable. I think it was about $150 for all the parts about 5 years ago here in Adelaide.
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    Hardy spicer sell heavy duty uni joints and the centre ball for double cardan joints in australia through bearing shops
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    Centre diff and no drive main problem.

    Thanks STRANGY.

    To me a new vehicle, unsure of its past.

    Pulled out the front shaft, DC joint uni stuffed, hoped to be able to stay mobile by selecting 'diff lock' and have rear wheel drive only until I fixed the unis.

    Did that and no drive, got the mate to shift the lever for me while I looked to see what was happening, all looked OK.

    Disconnected the cable from the lever at the TC ensured it was not a cable adjustment but still no drive. No noises, no nothing, light on dash does come on.

    Should I be able to drive with diff lock on and no front shaft, I think I could in my 1999 model.

    I have not checked oil or anything else yet, I've had to do SLS bags, Fuel reg, radiator hoses and a lot of travelling. Just pulled the reco shaft out of the 99 that is still sitting here, will fit that in the AM.

    A Woods shaft seems to get all the ticks but trying to save for a wedding it will be put off for a while, I will just O/H the one I have.

    Any help on the drive with no front shaft would be helpful though.

    Regards guys.

    Mike

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    you should get drive, make sure the transfer case is not in neutral

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    Unfortunately not

    Thanks DISCOREVY, should have been one of the first things I checked, but that was not it.

    From underneath moving the lever by hand it feels funny, maybe a cir clip has come off or something simple like that.

    Thanks

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by nismine01 View Post
    Thanks Disconnected the cable from the lever at the TC ensured it was not a cable adjustment but still no drive. No noises, no nothing, light on dash does come on.
    That's interesting/odd. The light is lit not by the lever but by the actual dog clutch inside I believe (as you can have the lever in and no light until you drive a little, and have the lever out and light still on until it unbinds).

    I'd hesitate to start to suggest that the centre diff has an issue as it's more likely to be something simple, after all it was able to provide drive to front and rear shared, which suggests that the internals are still together. If the cross shaft goes I don't think the diff holds together very well.
    May take the rear shaft off and rotate unlocked, transfer neutral and see how smooth it feels and then locked also. If anything has broken I'd hope you could feel some graunching and play between from and rear output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nismine01 View Post


    ...Disconnected the cable from the lever at the TC ensured it was not a cable adjustment but still no drive. No noises, no nothing, light on dash does come on.,,,,

    Regards guys.

    Mike
    OK reference the earlier pic link posted. The light switch is activated by a detent in the shaft 14. Not by the drive collar.
    Earlier TC case has the switch in the position shown in the diagram 11, later cases have the switch located on the Output shaft housing nose and is actuated from the end of the shaft.
    In any case if the light works the selector shaft is moving correctly.
    So the selector fork must be jammed in the unlocked position.
    Pull the side cover plate and lock it in. At least you will have dive while you sort the new/repair shaft.

    Possible a piece of centre dif shim washer has made it into the works and jamming it.

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