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    New SLS Problem

    Hi All

    I've been having a look through the forum posts but so far have been unable to find a solution to my problem.

    So, I've had the 2001 TD5 D2 for two years now - the previous owner had replaced the SLS airbags and compressor (and also looks like the sensors are pretty recent as well). The whole setup had been working perfectly until recently when I noticed that the system was starting to take ages to reach 'off road' height after pressing the button on the dash.

    I also noticed last time I towed my caravan that the back end was sitting low when towing - something that hadn't been an issue in the past.

    Might be worth mentioning that recently the compressor has been pulsing intermittently after leaving the car after a drive. It seems to do this for over an hour, which seemed odd. I could sometimes get it to stop by rocking the back of the car. It got to the stage where I'd have to pull the 30A compressor fuse to stop it pulsing.

    I decided to have a closer look at the problem yesterday and have discovered the following so far (note that I have a Nanocom and am able to look at sensor values, force compressor on, etc.):

    1. I can lower both sides without any issues (when using the Nanocom SLS calibration 'lower' buttons)

    2. Checked for leaks in the bags with soapy water - can't see any bubbles or hear any air escaping

    3. If I press the 'off road' button, the dash light comes on (flashes) and chimes once - all appears to be fine and compressor starts but after a few seconds the compressor stops pumping (light on dash still flashing). If left a while the compressor will start and run again for a little while. I left it like this (all doors and bonnet closed and engine running) for about 20 mins and the dash light never went to steady (looked like it was still trying to achieve off road height).

    4. I checked the voltage to the compressor during one of the 'pauses' whilst it was being commanded to raise and there were no volts on the supply to the compressor (seems as though it wasn't being asked to run?)

    5. I inspected all connectors to the compressor & valves - all look ok, no water ingress or dirt.

    6. All fuses and relay fine (I tried replacing the compressor relay but made no difference).

    I'm an electrical engineer and am confident fault finding auto-electrics but this one has me a bit stumped!

    The only other info that might be worth noting is that I was stuck in a bog hole a few months ago for about 3 1/2 hours (water up to cargo floor level) so wondering if water has gotten in somewhere it shouldn't have...I did have all the carpets and centre console out and dried out afterwards...

    Any suggestions would be welcomed as I'd like to keep the SLS system but am contemplating pulling it all out and fitting springs to solve the issue as I'm currently not happy driving it).

    Cheers

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    I had all sorts of drama's with the SLS on my 04 D2.
    One day it would work just fine and the next day it would dump all the air and I was travelling on the stops (very uncomfortable and dangerous).
    I had the guys at the Landrover workshop sus the SLS out and they couldn't fault it, They did change out a solenoid on the pump but everything else checked out AOK .
    The crunch came when I had to travel 500k's back from Sharks bay towing a boat with NO air suspension bouncing about on the stops, I went for the spring conversion because I had a gut full of the unreliability factor with the SLS and it was Far cheaper and easier than replacing the pump, air bags and all the air lines.
    Yes the ride is Not as good on the coil springs But at least I won't be stuck halfway along the Gibb River Road with No rear suspension

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    The compressor is susceptible to water ingress,, that amount of time is more than long enough to fill it full of water.
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    +1^^^ classic case of weak compressor ... a repair kit is enough to make it work again: Wabco Air Suspension Compressor Piston Repair Kit for Audi Allroad - YouTube , also clean the filter which is beneath the LH rear lamp(wash it well and dry it) ...that pulsing after the ignition is off it's a quite common missbehaviour i couldn't find a logical explanation for it cos the compressor is supposed to work only with engine running so maybe the SLABS which stays under power up to 1.5 hour after the ignition was off is missinterpreting some residual voltage as crank signal or something
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    Thanks everyone for your responses. I think I'll turn my attention to the compressor, given the feedback above.

    I'm wondering if it would be possible to use a standard compressor (portable type usually carried for tyre inflation) rather than repairing / replacing the Wabco unit?
    I could then mount the compressor remotely and just run an airline from the compressor to the existing manifold in the box under the vehicle (with suitable hose adaptors of course).
    It looks like the existing unit seems to produce around 10 bar (~150 psi) / 170lpm, which is a similar output to the typical tyre inflation offerings out there, which can be had for less than $100...

    Given the age of the vehicle (and I'm not a purist!) I'm not too fussed about retaining the vehicle in 'standard' condition.
    I also can't rule out being stuck in water again and don't want to have to replace / repair the compressor every time the Disco goes swimming!

    Cheers

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    I guess if you mount the compressor elsewhere then you could make it work. I looked at trying to replace in situ and the issue is the remote air inlet, I haven't seen a standard compressor with that.
    You could almost certainly make it work by taking a standard compressor apart and getting the line fitted, I don't have a spare one to test.

    The reason I looked was the same as you, the original unit is getting on and expensive to replace, whereas you can get a pretty stonking compressor for less than $150. You may need to relay it though, I didn't think the standard one is terribly strong and doesn't draw major amps (and hence has the appropriate wiring) a beefy modern one might be more like 30amps at full chat.

    I guess the remote one would almost certainly need to be in the rear cargo area, so you'd have to reserve a bit of space around it for breathing and cooling. Starts taking up a fair bit of space....

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    Can't do a search on my iPhone but I have read a few post on here that have converted to another remote compressor.
    I'll have a search when at home and see if I can find the posts.
    Also picking up the air bag gear from the previous owner today to reinstall in my truck, so will be looking at the remote mounting of the compressor etc.
    I'll post what I trawl up on hereNew SLS Problem

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    Yep, here you go:

    D2, SLS Pump alternative.

    i think there's an ARB install as well.

    cheers
    Simon
    Cheers

    Simon
    2003 D2a TD5, ACE, SLS, Vienna Green.

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    have a look on my gallery.last page here is what worked for me,been there two years with no problems.you will find the compressor will be noisy but if it is all working it rarley comes on anyway

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    Just a bit of an update.
    I pulled the compressor apart at the weekend and found the cylinder to be badly scored and the piston ring in a similar condition. When I ran it off the vehicle the air coming out would struggle to blow the skin off a rice pudding...!

    I've decided that rather than trying to replace the compressor I'll take the plunge and replace the SLS setup with a spring replacement.
    As the front is sagging a bit as well I'm thinking of going with the Terrafirma TF229 SLS conversion & 2" lift.
    Any thoughts / feedback from those that have gone that way already would be much appreciated.

    Cheers

    Andy

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