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    Starting problem

    Hi all

    Have a problem starting the D2 Td5
    Intermittent stating issue, turn key to start and it’s hit and miss don’t know if it’s going to start.....
    like starter contacts but it’s not, I’ve tested and found I’m not getting power to the solenoid wire C0179-1 at the fuse box starter relay or at the starter.

    Things checked or renewed to date

    1-New starter motor, didn’t help but solenoid contact were stuffed so need doing anyway..
    2-Checked power and fuses all ok....
    3-Tested ignition circuits from ignition switch to BCU via fuse box and I’m getting power to C0662-5 that disappears into the BCU and is suppose to earth via a relay contact within the BCU to allow the starter contact to operate but it’s not???

    Here’s a wiring diagram that shows the starter circuit



    Anyone shed some light on this one??

    Cheers Lemo

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    load chexck the starter and the bcu frame earth and connector earth
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    Starting problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    load chexck the starter and the bcu frame earth and connector earth
    Starter is ok cause when it eventually starts it’s same as always and fires up instantly...
    Plus it’s not getting power to the solenoid wire...
    I’ve checked the earth behind the BCU all good there...
    Plugged and unplugged C0662 from the BCU and that appears to be ok as well? I’ll run the ohm meter on the earth wire to the body, just to be 100%
    Would have thought if an earth problem I’d be having more faults occur?

    Don’t happen to know the exact location of the earth in the diagram I posted before??
    Or if the BCU has only one earth?

    Cheers Lemo

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    Found earth at connector C0660-11 for the BCU from header earth C0551-4 (K108) under carpet drivers foot well.

    Just tested C0660-11 at BCU plug to earth point behind and good continuity, which rules out bad earth?

    Lemo

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    Now have the B/ (B with a cross through flashing)

    I’ve had this a few time before over the last 6 months but never really presented a problem...

    So is this a shagged BCU or fuse box and the IDM???

    And if I get a new BCU what was the process with syncing speedo? Dose the BCU sync the Speedo or the swapped BCU will put a new value up whatever’s greater???
    Will have a search as well and see what pops up rechristen as well

    Cheers Lemo

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    Automatic? May be in the inhibitor/xyz switch?
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    Maybe? selects all gears and displays each in the IP display plus with the nanocom connected it switch’s each xyz on and off when moved etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemo View Post
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    like starter contacts but it’s not, I’ve tested and found I’m not getting power to the solenoid wire C0179-1 at the fuse box starter relay or at the starter.

    .....
    Not 100% clear on this part.

    When you say not getting power C1079 at the fuse box or the starter solenoid .. do you mean no power at the relay pins on the fuse box, or no power out of the relay itself to C0571-2 pin at the connector to the solenoid wire?
    They are different things.
    If you have no power at the relay, maybe pull the fuse box apart a little, and check for corroded connections that could cause intermittent contacting there. Fuses etc ...

    Another 'out there' possibility .. inertia switch intermittently contacting and not?

    You said "like the starter contacts, but it's not ..." so by this do you mean you hear a click of some kind.
    If so, at the starter solenoid?(unlikely considering there's no power on the wire).
    If you do hear a click, is it from the relay maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    Not 100% clear on this part.

    When you say not getting power C1079 at the fuse box or the starter solenoid .. do you mean no power at the relay pins on the fuse box, or no power out of the relay itself to C0571-2 pin at the connector to the solenoid wire?
    They are different things.
    If you have no power at the relay, maybe pull the fuse box apart a little, and check for corroded connections that could cause intermittent contacting there. Fuses etc ...

    Another 'out there' possibility .. inertia switch intermittently contacting and not?

    You said "like the starter contacts, but it's not ..." so by this do you mean you hear a click of some kind.
    If so, at the starter solenoid?(unlikely considering there's no power on the wire).
    If you do hear a click, is it from the relay maybe?
    For clarity I’m not getting any click, nada nothing... and with a test light at the stater motor relay output C0571-2 no power.
    Or the BCU closing the return path to allow this.

    So pretty sure it’s a BCU fault as it’s not closing the contact to allow power to the starter relay, all else tested ok as per diagram.
    And as mentioned in another post I’ve had the B with the cross indicating in the cluster display, so the BCU isn’t happy!!

    Picked up a second hand BCU and instrument Cluster from a D2a for a good price and will see how that goes. It’s got less Km then mine so should sync up ok as well.

    Also I’ve never had water in the drivers side fuse area and wouldn’t think there’s corrosion but I’ve had it in the passenger side, will check the fuse box this afternoon anyway to rule that out.

    Cheers Lemo

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    Bit of an update
    Pulled auto/xyz loom out and checked for chafing.
    All good, re wrapped and added rubber insulation to the metal P clip.
    Starts and runs ok for now, just waiting on another BCU and instrument cluster to arrive and should be changed over by the weekend so will see how that goes....

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