I barely believe this about The TD5 transmission coolant hoses.

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Originally Posted by rick130

Great deal!

Wasnt the problem with the old ones a lack of bead to retain the crimped hose?
Can you feel a bead at all on these?

I need to do something before they release themselves when I least expect it.

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Off topic but sort of in as well.. Demonstrates the importance of Swages.

Rick do you remember those big Grey Email Package units in days of yore. Can't recall the models now. SU rings a bell. Water cooled from a Marley Tower on the roof.

Picture this if you will.
Just before Xmas one year we contracted a respected Plumber (1st mistake) to replace all hoses on these water cooled units so they would be reliable for the Grosvenor Hotel big Xmas Lunch in Adel.


Came the day, enjoying my Lunch, phone rang. "Grosvenor here, we are being flooded out in the dining room" (& I do mean flooded)[bighmmm]



Get there to find the new hoses had blown off the straight section of smooth 2" HD copper pipe at the WC condensers 3 out of 6 units. Carpeted floor was awash with customers grabbing their dinner plates & moving to a safer area still with cutlery in hands. There was uproar in the Dining Room & the clients would have paid a Mottza for lunch.

There was an 8HP or 10hp pump still draining the Marley at a rate of knots so you can imagine the scene.


You've guessed it. No swage on any of the the copper pipes. This hadn't been a problem before & as the factory hadn't swaged the pipes but used a type of BOSTIK to hold the hoses on against pump pressure. It had all set nicely in it's previous untouched life. But replacing with new hoses created a minor problem.

It didn't need mechanical fittings, just a swage with a Pipe Expander. & clamps (2) per joint. 24 total


All ended well. The Grosv. wasn.t happy, the customers wanted their dosh back & the carpet was ****ed & had to be replaced & the Plumber learnt a lesson. So, a good day really in the scheme of things.


Oh yes one small point. The Grosvenor then was owned by the family whose head was my employers Chairman of the Board. :Rolling:

Big insurance claim for the Plumber though.


Ah, Happy Days.

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

Ok my D2 TD5 auto has now done 211KK and I am getting very nervous about my auto transmission to cooler hoses. UBP101601 and UBP101610
Did an Ebay search and rang both 4WD Industries and All4x4 had only RH one in stock none at suppliers. Mario doesn't stock then due to freight. I tried him first. Over $350 freight from UK makes them aver $600 landed.
Freight was between 34 and $40.
Cost
4WD drive industries total 444 plus freight of 34
All4x4 total 470 plus $40 freight.( I would probably drive 1 1/2 hours each way to get them)

Now wait for it!
Central Coast Landrover
$219 and $246 total $465 plus 2 Orings at 8.16=16.32 grand Total 481.32.
Available ex Melbourne no freight on Thursday or Friday. I am close to West Gosford.

Has this ever happened in the history of the World????????
Regards PhilipA

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I fitted a cooler from another vehicle that was larger, and therefore had to use custom hose. Far cheaper - it was also “push lock” hydraulic hose: did not use hose clamps. Quite simple and no way would I have paid that amount. Cheers Dave

"So how much did you pay for accommodation , how many days lost,?
You were lucky it happened at Forster. Half way across the Bight would be a different matter.
I have always had NRMA premium for this but it still is a PITA as it was when my fuel manifold went on the GRR . I bet I have spent more time in Kununurra than most."

We had RACV extra care. They paid for the accommodation (caravan park) and the tow truck. Until it blew I was totally ignorant of this old chestnut.

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Originally Posted by davros

I fitted a cooler from another vehicle that was larger, and therefore had to use custom hose. Far cheaper - it was also “push lock” hydraulic hose: did not use hose clamps. Quite simple and no way would I have paid that amount. Cheers Dave

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This is what I've been meaning to do but have been too lazy to do anything aka decided to push my luck...[emoji849][emoji50]

I took my 101 (RV8) cooler hoses into Pirtek and they made them on the spot - from removal to refit just a couple of hours - I cannot remember the price but was relatively cheap. Threads were an issue but they adaptors that worked fine.

Garry

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Originally Posted by rick130

Great deal!

Wasnt the problem with the old ones a lack of bead to retain the crimped hose?
Can you feel a bead at all on these?

I need to do something before they release themselves when I least expect it.

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The original are swaged and a quickfit onto the cooler. For aftermarket ATF coolers the regular push the pipe over a bead and hose clamp are not strong enough, they need to be multibarb pirtek type fittings to hold.