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    Well, thank you all, once again I learn something! For the past 2 years since I got the vehicle, when driving in the dark, I've been thinking about the HVAC control switches "typical bloody Land Rover, how difficult would it have been to illuminate the switches?". I now find that they should be illuminated. However, since I can now find them by touch in the dark, I'm not pulling the thing out to fix the problem.

    Lawrence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metoikos13 View Post
    .... However, since I can now find them by touch in the dark, I'm not pulling the thing out to fix the problem.

    Lawrence
    Easy to do tho.

    If you follow the RAVE instructions, they make it sound harder than it really is.
    So when you say the switches arent' illuminated, do you mean the temp control buttons on each side or the lower control buttons .. or both.
    If you see from my photo, the central lower(green arrow) bulb does all the lower buttons, and the temp control lights are individual bulbs.

    Like I thought for Julians situation, it's unlikely that all three button bulbs will blow(no reason not too, just less likely) .. so could be a wire on one of the three external connectors, or more likely, the ribbon cable inside.

    The head unit comes out easy enough .. maybe first time it'll seem 'hard' if you use the card method as the cards are ~2mm thickness, and the gaps between head unit and console are similar, so the card places a bit of friction on the head unit.
    I don't have any, but I reckon that a plastic spatula like the type used to do plaster fixes, where they are very thin at the end would be ideal for removal.
    The locking tabs on either side of the head unit are about half the height of the head unit, and are located nearer the top of the head unit. So quite easy to locate blindly.
    Arthur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    Easy to do tho.

    If you follow the RAVE instructions, they make it sound harder than it really is.
    So when you say the switches arent' illuminated, do you mean the temp control buttons on each side or the lower control buttons .. or both.
    If you see from my photo, the central lower(green arrow) bulb does all the lower buttons, and the temp control lights are individual bulbs.

    Like I thought for Julians situation, it's unlikely that all three button bulbs will blow(no reason not too, just less likely) .. so could be a wire on one of the three external connectors, or more likely, the ribbon cable inside.

    The head unit comes out easy enough .. maybe first time it'll seem 'hard' if you use the card method as the cards are ~2mm thickness, and the gaps between head unit and console are similar, so the card places a bit of friction on the head unit.
    I don't have any, but I reckon that a plastic spatula like the type used to do plaster fixes, where they are very thin at the end would be ideal for removal.
    The locking tabs on either side of the head unit are about half the height of the head unit, and are located nearer the top of the head unit. So quite easy to locate blindly.
    OK Arthur, you've persuaded me. I'll give it a go next week. It's just the lower buttons. Where do I get the bulbs?

    Cheers

    Lawrence

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    Just the lower is one bulb, so most likely it's blown.

    I got mine off ebay, ordered both T4.2 types and T4.7s .. not sure which they are .. but.

    I have both types, just don't know which is which.. there are no markings.
    But because one of my bulb types fits and the other doesn't .. only by a bee's thingy .. I'm guessing they are T4.2 bulbs.

    So look for T4.2 bulbs on ebay is my suggestion.
    Arthur.

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    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
    '03 D2a Td5 Auto

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    On a drive today, the temp control lights were on. All other lights off. Tap the unit and the temp display screen lights up. tap it again and the switches light up. I guess it is the connectors. Some fun for the weekend.
    Contact cleaner on the ribbon connector ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohica View Post
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    Contact cleaner on the ribbon connector ok?
    yep.

    Also remove the display lights. Could be that the springiness of the contacts in the bulb holder are a tad loose too.
    But if all are intermittent, then as you said, more likely the loom connectors and or the ribbon cable.
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
    '03 D2a Td5 Auto

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    HVAC head unit doesn't require radio out.
    I've removed many times without radio head unit out.

    I use two credit card type cards(driver license, old Medicare card ... etc) slim sturdy plastic card of some type.

    Slot into thin gap either side of temp control buttons.
    Push in and jiggle head unit at the same time.
    Head unit won't pop out, but as you eventually hit the side spring clips with the cards(whilst you wriggle head unit) it will pop out and just sit proud of the fascia.
    Needs to come out straight on as it has 4 locating pins/lugs near each corner.

    Could possibly be the plugs as you predict, but I reckon more likely the globes aren't sitting right.

    IIRC, globes are 3 x T5 globes and 3 x (either) T4.2 or T4.7 globes for all of them.
    I've tried this, Hard to jiggle, nothing to grip. I push the cards in, then at an angle, and I can hear a springing type of noise... The unit does not budge. One of my cards is now missing a corner.
    Time for plan 'B'..... What ever plan 'B' is.

    Remove the audio head and work down?
    D2a Td5 Manual, Chawton White. aka "Daisy"
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    Freelander 2 2011, manual, the daughter calls it Perri
    Before I had a Land Rover I did not have any torque wrenches. Now I have three.
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    I do remember the first time I did it, cards are a bit thick for the gap, but do eventually work.. just perseverance.

    I use old cards(license/CC/VideoEzy! )

    I was thinking .. maybe a couple of those cheapie plastic scraper/plastering smoother outerer doodads could do a better job of it.

    Reason it's a bit hard to jiggle out is that there are 4 locating pin/lug type things at each corner, likely to stop squeaky/rattly vibes. They are a bit sticky, so help the head unit to cling on for dear life.

    I'll see if I can get a short vid of how I do it .. can't guarantee I can do it soon tho, but I will try.
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
    '03 D2a Td5 Auto

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    I am thinking of making a pair of metal bits to fit, like a spatula knife. 1.5mm or 1mm, what ever is in the workshop.
    A video would help. images of the sides where the clips are would be great.
    D2a Td5 Manual, Chawton White. aka "Daisy"
    Build date 11th Oct 2003
    Freelander 2 2011, manual, the daughter calls it Perri
    Before I had a Land Rover I did not have any torque wrenches. Now I have three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bohica View Post
    ....
    A video would help. images of the sides where the clips are would be great.
    The clips are located on the upper half of the head unit body, and approx 40-50mm inwards.
    Imagine the height of the head unit, top half is the height of the clips. if you insert a slim, not so wide item in the lower half, it won't touch the clips.

    I reckon if you have two credit card sized slidey things, a bit more than half way of the length of the card inwards, will easily unclip the clips.
    Then it's a matter of wriggling/fighting the head unit out.
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
    '03 D2a Td5 Auto

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