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    When it first came on, I thought it meant the car was overflowing, I then realised that I was still dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Any idea what that means, Simon?
    Mate I'm really not sure to be honest. This is from RAVE which may help if there are any asociated signs that go with the errors.

    Failure modes
    Failures where the vehicle can still be driven safely are indicated by the ACE warning lamp illuminating continuously
    with an amber colour. The amber warning lamp will remain illuminated until the ignition is turned off. For all faults the
    warning lamp will only illuminate again if the fault is still present. Failures which require the driver to stop the vehicle
    immediately are indicated by the ACE warning lamp flashing with a red colour and an audible warning. All faults are
    recorded by the ACE ECU and can be retrieved with diagnostic equipment.
    The following tables show the type of system failures and their effects on the system operation. Torsion bar 'floppy'
    means that fluid is allowed to circulate freely through the system. With no pressure in the actuators the torsion bar will
    have no effect on vehicle roll. 'Locked bars' means that all pump flow is directed through the valve block and returns
    to the reservoir. Both DCV's close and fluid is trapped in the actuators but can flow from one actuator to the other via
    the valve block. In this condition the torsion bar will perform similar to a conventional anti-roll bar, resisting roll but still
    allowing the axles to articulate.

    Acceleration sensors
    Failure Effect
    Valve stuck closed - No ACE control
    Short circuit - Ground No ACE control
    Short circuit - VBatt No ACE control
    Loose sensor - Erractic ACE activity when driving in straight line

    Pressure transducer
    Failure Effect
    Short circuit - VBatt - Large sensor dead band - possible random movements


    Road speed signal
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - Ground - No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - VBatt - No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition

    Engine speed signal
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - Ground No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - VBatt No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition

    Reverse gear signal
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit - No reverse signal to ECU. ACE active in reverse, may give abnormal handling when reversing
    Short circuit - Ground - No reverse signal to ECU. ACE active in reverse, may give abnormal handling when reversing
    Short circuit - VBatt - Permanent reverse signal to ECU. Permanent 'Locked bars' condition

    Ignition ON signal
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit - ECU does not receive ignition ON signal. No ARC control, 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - Ground ECU does not receive ignition ON signal. No ARC control, 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - VBatt Permanent ignition ON signal to ECU. Possibility of flat battery

    Pressure control valve failure
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit - No ACE control
    Short circuit - Ground - No ACE control
    Short circuit - VBatt - No ACE control
    Valve stuck open - No ACE control
    Valve stuck closed - Maximum system pressure - no proportional control. Pressure relief valve operating at 185 bar (2683 lbf.in 2 )


    Directional control valves
    Failure Effect
    DCV 1 Valve open or stuck open, DCV 2 Valve open or stuck open No ACE control - Anti-roll bars floppy
    DCV 1 Valve closed or stuck closed, DCV 2 Valve closed stuck closed No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition (default)
    DCV 1 Valve open or stuck open, DCV 2 Valve closed or stuck closed - Vehicle leans to left when pressure is applied to actuators
    DCV 1 Valve closed or stuck closed, DCV 2 Valve open or stuck open - Vehicle leans to right when pressure is applied to actuators
    Cheers
    Slunnie


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    silly question I know, but have you eyeballed both rams and linkages?
    Leaks would be obvious, for obvious reasons, but a bent or seized ram might be the culprit. I still reckon it's a ride height sensor, but an educated guess is still a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Leaks would be obvious, for obvious reasons, but a bent or seized ram might be the culprit. I still reckon it's a ride height sensor, but an educated guess is still a guess.
    The sensors there are for the SLS rather than the ACE. The coil ACE don't have them. That said I have triggered the ACE light when I hit the G sensor in the roof looking for power.
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    Mate I'm really not sure to be honest. This is from RAVE which may help if there are any asociated signs that go with the errors.

    Failure modes
    Failures where the vehicle can still be driven safely are indicated by the ACE warning lamp illuminating continuously
    with an amber colour. The amber warning lamp will remain illuminated until the ignition is turned off. For all faults the
    warning lamp will only illuminate again if the fault is still present. Failures which require the driver to stop the vehicle
    immediately are indicated by the ACE warning lamp flashing with a red colour and an audible warning. All faults are
    recorded by the ACE ECU and can be retrieved with diagnostic equipment.
    The following tables show the type of system failures and their effects on the system operation. Torsion bar 'floppy'
    means that fluid is allowed to circulate freely through the system. With no pressure in the actuators the torsion bar will
    have no effect on vehicle roll. 'Locked bars' means that all pump flow is directed through the valve block and returns
    to the reservoir. Both DCV's close and fluid is trapped in the actuators but can flow from one actuator to the other via
    the valve block. In this condition the torsion bar will perform similar to a conventional anti-roll bar, resisting roll but still
    allowing the axles to articulate.

    Acceleration sensors
    Failure Effect
    Valve stuck closed - No ACE control
    Short circuit - Ground No ACE control
    Short circuit - VBatt No ACE control
    Loose sensor - Erractic ACE activity when driving in straight line

    Pressure transducer
    Failure Effect
    Short circuit - VBatt Large sensor dead band - possible random movements


    Road speed signal
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - Ground No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - VBatt No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition

    Engine speed signal
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - Ground No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - VBatt No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition

    Reverse gear signal
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit - No reverse signal to ECU. ACE active in reverse, may give abnormal handling when reversing
    Short circuit - Ground No reverse signal to ECU. ACE active in reverse, may give abnormal handling when reversing
    Short circuit - VBatt Permanent reverse signal to ECU. Permanent 'Locked bars' condition

    Ignition ON signal
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit - ECU does not receive ignition ON signal. No ARC control, 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - Ground ECU does not receive ignition ON signal. No ARC control, 'Locked bars' condition
    Short circuit - VBatt Permanent ignition ON signal to ECU. Possibility of flat battery

    Pressure control valve failure
    Failure Effect
    Open circuit - No ACE control
    Short circuit - Ground No ACE control
    Short circuit - VBatt No ACE control
    Valve stuck open - No ACE control
    Valve stuck closed - Maximum system pressure - no proportional control. Pressure relief valve operating at 185 bar (2683 lbf.in 2 )


    Directional control valves
    Failure Effect
    DCV 1 Valve open or stuck open, DCV 2 Valve open or stuck open No ACE control - Anti-roll bars floppy
    DCV 1 Valve closed or stuck closed, DCV 2 Valve closed stuck closed No ACE control - 'Locked bars' condition (default)
    DCV 1 Valve open or stuck open, DCV 2 Valve closed or stuck closed - Vehicle leans to left when pressure is applied to actuators
    DCV 1 Valve closed or stuck closed, DCV 2 Valve open or stuck open - Vehicle leans to right when pressure is applied to actuators
    Clear as mud, in true Manufacturer's Manual tradition. But, I'll bet the answer is in there. TestBook jargon.
    ​JayTee

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    I occasionally get a red or amber "the doors are falling off" light, on the dash.
    Nanocom has recorded an 18-04 fault. Can anyone decipher or explain this, please?
    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    18-04 fault: Doors fallen off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    From another place:
    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Got a Nanocom, Ian? Could it simply be a ride height sensor, or somesuch? Can't recall, but does your's have SLS? Mario's thing was almost explosive, which suggests fairly high pressure in the hoses, so a leak would be obvious to say the least. My guess is a sensor.
    Yes John, the Nanocom told me the fault code.
    If I turn off and restart the car, usually the light goes out.
    The doors haven't fallen off, it's not draughty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    That said I have triggered the ACE light when I hit the G sensor in the roof looking for power.
    Say WHAT?? Lordy.
    ​JayTee

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    Might be time to change the filter located in the bizzo (can't think of the name) under the drivers side on the chassis rail. Or maybe the pump is on it's way out. Or I could be way wrong on both counts, usually am.
    There is no eraser on the pencil of life.

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    Was - 2000 D2 TD5 with much fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Say WHAT?? Lordy.
    Mine's a Td5, I'm always looking for power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Yes John, the Nanocom told me the fault code.
    If I turn off and restart the car, usually the light goes out.
    The doors haven't fallen off, it's not draughty.
    OK, tipping a sensor, possibly/probably ride height. What other sensors control ACE and illuminate an amber light? I dunno, I'm asking. But I'll bet it's electrickery. LR are good at that.
    ​JayTee

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