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    V8 guys with big tyres.... i have some questions

    Ok so i ended up putting some 32's on my factory 18 inch rims (275-65-18) and the car feels absolutely gutless! Is this normal?

    It is high mileage at 280,000 but in good condition. Doesn't burn fluid or get hot etc etc. I knew there would be a bit of a performance drop but i was not expecting this much of a drop compared to my other set of 16's with 31's.

    Can't even accelerate up the slightest incline to the point where it was becoming embarrassing. Pretty sure it even kicked back down to 2nd and hit 4000rpm for about 30 seconds which was enough barely maintain 90kmph-ish.

    Has anyone else been through this or should be looking at refreshing the old motor?

    Cheers everyone.

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    Can a TD5 guy throw my 2 bob's worth in? I'm surprised. The difference is only 3.2% ( speedo diff ). It would be observable, but not hugely so. Has it also affected braking as noticeably? If not then I suggest something else could be in play.

    If I may relate, I went from 34s to 38s on my already gutless OKA. The difference is definitely there, but not as bad as you are describing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Can a TD5 guy throw my 2 bob's worth in? I'm surprised. The difference is only 3.2% ( speedo diff ). It would be observable, but not hugely so. Has it also affected braking as noticeably? If not then I suggest something else could be in play.

    If I may relate, I went from 34s to 38s on my already gutless OKA. The difference is definitely there, but not as bad as you are describing.
    Yeah braking was definately another noticeable drop. Maybe the tyres are a lot heavier than i expected and I'm just not used to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by shayne86 View Post
    Yeah braking was definately another noticeable drop. Maybe the tyres are a lot heavier than i expected and I'm just not used to it
    I couldn't really see, but the tyre size difference isnt all that big. I was wondering if you had changed tyre patterns as that can make a pretty big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shayne86 View Post
    Yeah braking was definately another noticeable drop.
    It's a function of leverage, and if you are sensitive to it you can even notice it replacing worn tyres with new ones of the same type/size. 3.2% isn't much though.

    Quote Originally Posted by shayne86 View Post
    Maybe the tyres are a lot heavier than i expected and I'm just not used to it
    18" rims should have less tyre than 16", not more imo. Tricky one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    I couldn't really see, but the tyre size difference isnt all that big. I was wondering if you had changed tyre patterns as that can make a pretty big difference.
    Rolling resistance, you mean? Yeah, can play a part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post


    18" rims should have less tyre than 16", not more imo. Tricky one.
    100% agree. Although when i chucked them on they were fairly weighty. They are Hancook Dynapro MT's for reference.

    Maybe just a combination of old motor and heavier/larger tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Rolling resistance, you mean? Yeah, can play a part.
    Yep, jumping between my D2 Td5 and D1 V8, the V8 is far more sensitive to loads and that type of thing. Some tyres just drag everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shayne86 View Post
    100% agree. Although when i chucked them on they were fairly weighty. They are Hancook Dynapro MT's for reference.

    Maybe just a combination of old motor and heavier/larger tyres.
    The V8s can get tired. Which one is it? Maybe just some better breathing might help. I know the older 8s would wear the cam out, but I don't know if that applies to the 4.0/.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    The V8s can get tired. Which one is it? Maybe just some better breathing might help. I know the older 8s would wear the cam out, but I don't know if that applies to the 4.0/.6
    Its an 04 facelift model with 4.0 and according to the vin its a low compression block. Roughly 280k on the clock.

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