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    Aux circuit - Intermittent issue

    I have searched and searched and found similar issues, but not a real solution.

    2004 TD5 D2a

    It seems the AUX circuit (Radio, wipers, cigar lighter) will not work, until I either drive for 30seconds - 5 minutes then it will gain power. It is like when your alternator fails and power is running out.

    Then I will park up to investigate and the problem and it is as if the circuit has had its battery charged and will not fail again, well sometimes it does.

    I did have a head sensor and UHF/CB radio which I removed as I thought they may be the issue but still persists.

    All fuses (engine bay, in cabin, radio) are in good operational order.

    The relay for AUX in the engine has good resistance ohms (60) and I can hear and feel it click when I turn the car on. I have replaced the relay with the ABS relay and the problem persists.

    All grounds I can find see solid and a good connection.

    From the research I have completed there are a lot of grounds. I am fairly useless with electrical diagrams so I'd like to know where, with pictures or a really good description to the location, the earth points specific. The Haynes manual has an earth point (E2) and states RH A-PILLAR - but I am not sure where that is exactly.

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    Hi, the aux relay's earth is common with the ABS pump and SLS compressor relay's so if it was that you should get the 3 amigos and SLS warning(if fitted) once it's missing, you should replace the fusebox with a known good one cos it's very suspect... as long as you hear/feel the relay clicking but no power to auxiliay circuits and the relay was ruled out the problem is on the power feed from FL7 to the relay's contact, when you turn ignition on from cold and the aux power is missing remove FL7 and insert a piece of wire instead and if the power comes on it can be a hairline crack in it or bad contact there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    Hi, the aux relay's earth is common with the ABS pump and SLS compressor relay's so if it was that you should get the 3 amigos and SLS warning(if fitted)

    Cheers mate.

    I do have another issue where the TC nor HDC lights illuminate - I feel seperate to this issue.

    The ABS is always on due to the front LH ABS sensor failing (currently replacing that now as we speak).

    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    you should replace the fusebox with a known good one cos it's very suspect... as long as you hear/feel the relay clicking but no power to auxiliay circuits and the relay was ruled out the problem is on the power feed from FL7 to the relay's contact, when you turn ignition on from cold and the aux power is missing remove FL7 and insert a piece of wire instead and if the power comes on it can be a hairline crack in it or bad contact there.
    Thanks mate, I'll have a looksie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    as long as you hear/feel the relay clicking but no power to auxiliay circuits and the relay was ruled out the problem is on the power feed from FL7 to the relay's contact, when you turn ignition on from cold and the aux power is missing remove FL7 and insert a piece of wire instead and if the power comes on it can be a hairline crack in it or bad contact there.
    The issue is that power does eventually come on to the aux circuit, albeit rather intermittent. That makes me think that the fusebox is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getLuke View Post
    The issue is that power does eventually come on to the aux circuit, albeit rather intermittent. That makes me think that the fusebox is fine.
    Intermittent = bad contact somewhere and as long as the relay is clicking and no power to some aux circuits means that the power doesnt get to them or it's an earth issue as you suspected if it's common for all, the aux relay is feeding the heated screen, headlamp power wash and front fog lamps too through the engine bay's fusebox's internal circuit so see if those are working when the radio and others dont cos these are getting power through the interior fusebox which gets it from the other fusebox if you see what i mean, if the fog lamps are working while the radio, cigar lighter and wipers are not check earth header C0018 cos there's the common earth for these(the one which has only black wires in it)
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    UPDATE

    Problem solved - fusebox.

    See here: Starting issue

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