If you're in the Eastern 'burbs last time I was at Nick-a-Part they had 2. Not bare chassis, but maybe picked clean enough for your needs. Just FYI. D2, not 2a.
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If you're in the Eastern 'burbs last time I was at Nick-a-Part they had 2. Not bare chassis, but maybe picked clean enough for your needs. Just FYI. D2, not 2a.
Thanks Tins, am inner city basically (Travancore is part of the old Flemington) so I take it is the Kilsyth one and not Campbellfield which is just up the road. Family are all out at Croydon and grew up there, so chance to drop in and see them as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins
I need the D2 so this works well.
Tried pick a part but the chassis was too low to the ground for me and my shoulder to get underneath. So went off to Mentone and Landy Place, asked politely if I could and Danny was more than happy to allow me to have a look underneath at D2 V8 up on the hoist, THANKS Danny.
So the bad first, the LT230 support bracket will have to be removed as will the the ACE box and SLS box for installing the 8HP.
as the first two pics will testify, there are plenty of attachment points at these positions to locate the plate.
Absolutely definitive,
the chassis width is 640mm
The chassis height depth is 150mm
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Further discussions held regarding the best to install.
1 - get blank plates 500mm * 150mm
2 - remove the 4HP
3 - remove the SLS and ACE boxes on the outside of the chassis
4 - make templates up for the attachment points
5 - drill out the holes, with some play
6 - bolts replaced with high tensile ones to fit the extra depth
7 - fit the plates and install 8HP
8 - tack on supports
9 - remove plates and weld on fully the supports
10 - refit the plates and supports
11 - get the thing running
It may be necessary by the way to have a nut either side of the chassis so between the SLS and ACE mounting them out a fraction
Will provide the template back to the manufacturer for future use and the possibility of making up a guard plate
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It may be two plates on the drivers side rather than one and keeping the LT230 support as a attachment point for the guard, the easier it is to install for others with the possibility of doing it in the driveway, the better.
So hopefully this will be delivered in a couple of weeks, HOPEFULLY and I get this done before my upcoming shoulder op.
Long meeting yesterday with the installer, does Merc restorations for a day job, couple of nice pagodas sitting there as well as other of various vintage, great workshop.
So bit the bullet and ouch, but to get it done expediently some times its worth it. The final assembly with measurements.
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So were in agreeance as to rather than removing the current Lt230 mount, will cut the plate either side and keep the underlip for the cross plate. So the unit will look like this, well sort of the cut out will be closer to the new support bracket.
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Whilst he thought the best way of doing it was bespoke holes and inner supports in the chassis rails and cant disagree with this at all, want to keep this as easy as possible for others to undertake in their future installs, so the standard holes it will be.
Liked the idea of a nut either side of the chassis to help maintain the structurally rigidity of the ACE and SLS units.
Now have to find the bolt dimensions of these to source.
The console gentleman got back to me and has made up a switch holder to recess the switches down rather than switch tops standing proud on the console
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Did a complete ratio chart for the 8 speeds utilizing the Ashcroft Calculator, this only has six speeds so had to mock it up.
TD5 8HP - 4.37 diff, 1.003 LT230, 32 inch tyres
Speed/Gear First Second Third Fourth Fifth Sixth Seventh Eight 10 KPH 1344 896 602 477 368 286 240 191 20 KPH 2688 1792 1204 954 735 572 480 382 30 KPH 4032 2688 1807 1431 1103 859 721 572 40 KPH 3584 2409 1908 1471 1145 961 763 50 KPH 4480 3011 2385 1839 1431 1201 954 60 KPH 3613 2862 2206 1717 1441 1145 70 KPH 4215 3339 2574 2004 1681 1336 80 KPH 4818 3817 2942 2290 1922 1527 90 KPH 4294 3310 2576 2162 1717 100 KPH 4771 3677 2862 2402 1908 110 KPH 4045 3149 2642 2099 120 KPH 4413 3435 2882 2290 130 KPH 4780 3721 3123 2481
Standard
Speed/Gear First Second Third Fourth 10 KPH 773 461 312 227 20 KPH 1546 923 623 454 30 KPH 2319 1384 935 681 40 KPH 3092 1845 1247 908 50 KPH 3865 2307 1559 1135 60 KPH 4638 2768 1870 1362 70 KPH 3229 2182 1589 80 KPH 3691 2494 1815 90 KPH 4152 2805 2042 100 KPH 4613 3117 2269 110 KPH 5075 3429 2496 120 KPH 3741 2723 130 KPH 4052 2950
I had noted earlier in this feed that the 8HP gives basically I gear below and one gear above the 4HP, so just for clarity gave some colour and removed all rpm above 5000
No need for 49% low range reduction gearsm you'll have it already.
How will you go pulling 400rpm less on the highway?
Certainly a considerable weigh up in choosing the 1.003, have been checking the operation of the 6hp in the allroad as to how it chooses the ratios and consumption etc at all speeds. Certainly 1st is dismissed so quickly its almost redundant except on quicker takes off. The operation up around 70 and 80kph is 3rd and 4th and then over 80kph, 5th and 6th around the 100kph. Can change up if I desire of course. The top ratio is around 1750rpm at 100kph in the Audi.
On the drive out to the installer yesterday 50k's out of Melbourne, where it was 80 on the city freeway (400 metres down the road), then 100 and finally 110kph and as to how I use the D2, well this is more real world. I get on the freeway and drive for 3-4 hours to the VHC and then 20-30k's along the backroads.
So predominantly the cruising speed is 110kph plus the extra couple which equates to 2100rpm which is where I would imagine it will spend most time in 8th but may downshift up a couple of the hills out of here back to 7th. This without the flare as the TC unlocks in back to 3rd at the moment of course.
As you would appreciate the instant lockup of the transmission is the real game changer, in the allroad it is barely 1-200rpm rise before locking in. So think it will be fine if all I expect it be is a cruising overdrive than expecting it be 95kph + gear. It may operate at 100 plus a couple cruise on the flat and if so this would a pleasant advantage
Just did a 3.54 and 32" tyre with the first three and top three gears of the 8HP as an extra comparison
Speed/Gear First Second Third Fourth Fifth Sixth 10 KPH 1327 884 594 282 237 188 20 KPH 2653 1769 1189 565 474 377 30 KPH 3980 2653 1783 847 711 565 40 KPH 5306 3537 2377 1130 948 753 50 KPH 6633 4422 2972 1412 1185 942 60 KPH 7959 5306 3566 1695 1422 1130 70 KPH 9286 6190 4160 1977 1659 1318 80 KPH 10612 7075 4755 2260 1897 1507 90 KPH 11939 7959 5349 2542 2134 1695 100 KPH 13265 8843 5943 2825 2371 1883 110 KPH 14592 9728 6538 3107 2608 2072 120 KPH 15918 10612 7132 3390 2845 2260 130 KPH 17245 11496 7726 3672 3082 2448
Not too much difference in this at all compared to my set up with the LR 1st giving a more than admirable 55.20:1
Latest Console Design before sign off. Switch assembly will be 7.5cm from the base of the shifter cutout. I may have previously mentioned but the shifter will actually be on an angle of around left 30-45 degrees from the centre line. So when my hand is on the shifter, the direction will be directly away / toward the angle of my arm.
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Looking good.
Must admit the shifter on an angle would drive me crazy. No doubt it is something you will get used to.
Looking forward to seeing it all come together. [emoji106]
