Reply With QuoteThe third npt could possibly be a return from the Rocker Cover...
Master
SupporterWhilst searching for a dual turbo and egt gauge came across this Australian company who have what I needed for the gauge but had some other interesting products as well.
This here is a plate that sits under the oil filter and has three npt inputs for sensors.
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Universal Oil Filter Sandwich Plate Adapter Silver :: 1/8 NPT Fittings
It requires an adaptor
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Stainless Steel Sandwich Plate Adapter 3/4" -16UNF :: Buy Here
all this comes to a grand total of $56 combined.
For mine I do not think I have seen an easier system to attach pressure and temp sensors.
The site states that you need a filter size that fits the adaptors, in this case checked up the Ryco site as they suggest and it this shows the size -3/4 x 16
Z614 | Ryco Filters
2004 Discovery 2a TD5 Auto Aspen Green AKA Robin
2000 Discovery 2 TD5 Auto Alverston Red AKA Edward
1997 Discovery 1 TDi Manual White - Gone but not forgotten
1994 Discovery 1 V8 Auto - Gone once it consumed half the worlds resource of oil
Master
SupporterThe third npt could possibly be a return from the Rocker Cover...
2004 Discovery 2a TD5 Auto Aspen Green AKA Robin
2000 Discovery 2 TD5 Auto Alverston Red AKA Edward
1997 Discovery 1 TDi Manual White - Gone but not forgotten
1994 Discovery 1 V8 Auto - Gone once it consumed half the worlds resource of oil
YarnMaster
Seems very like this one(the silver version) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000...6adb26bdhb4Fhi
Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned
TopicToaster
SupporterUnless you have already modified the turbo drain hose, and relocated it, will not work.
The filter is already restricted for space between mounting and drain hose, and extending it further down is impossible.
Have a quick peek at my post re the filter relocation I recently did too ....
HERE
Some hints: Don't cheap out. I know you've spent some good money on your D2, don't go downhill on yourself here.
While the cheap aluminium filter adapter things will work, there is a big difference between a proper name brand version and the cheaper 'ebay types'(can mean any of these rip off versions form any source). The main difference is the way the porting is designed.
On the cheaper rip off versions, I'[m not sure what design they copied exactly, maybe an older 'name brand' type but the path of the ports(inlet and outlet) take are best described as convoluted .. ie. not straight as can be.
I dunno if this makes any real difference or not, but you'd expect that at a more viscous temp the oil would flow better with the straight path product.
Use the stuff that VPW sell. Their service is excellent. I think, in another post about the mod, I wrote about the stuff up when I got their product to replace the cheap ebay adpater. Without the receipt, they realised the mistake the manufacturer made with the contents, and gave me the necessary stuff needed. More importantly is the quality of the fittings used. The ebay stuff was simply garbage. I couldn't get it to stop leaking. Only small leaks, and fittings being black hard to see small leaks. In the end I ditched the ebay fittings, worked out what I needed, over estimated, and returned the unneeded fittings back to VPW.
If I recall, you live not far from me, so VPW is easy drive up freeway/ring road to Epping.
I also recall that you modded exhaust and turbo anyhow, so you may have more room down and under there for the filter, but filter relocation is so handy for filter changes.
Annoying issue I had, and not considering the consequence of having mounted my filter to the firewall, was noise. I thought I'd stuffed up fitting the hoses wrong way around, but no! I mounted the filter housing head directly to the firewall via home made bodged bracketing. Solid and works, but crude looking and no isolation. BAD! the oil running through the filer/head makes a racket when warm and some revs .. like a stuffed bearing.
I then fitted some isolation rubber feet between filter head and bracketing and problem solved.
As we all know, but many times ignore our own respective philosophies ... get the better quality items first up and do it right.
Alternative to filter relocation adapters, and sticking with the sandwhich plate idea, is that(if you haven't modded the drain hose) .. is to mod the drain hose with more products from VPW.
for example, any of the turbo drain adapters they have could be made to fit and modded so that the hose is routed around the filter, so that you could fit a sandwhich plate.
Arthur.
All these discos are giving me a heart attack!
'99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
'03 D2 Td5 Auto
'03 D2a Td5 Auto
Master
SupporterThanks Arthur, had not thought of actually doing this, just liked the idea when I saw it as had not seen such a device. Really liked your packaging and breakdown of the issues of doing such a relocation, even the noise aspect is an unexpected one but solved nicely.Originally Posted by AK83
You are right about my setup would have no issues as to the fitting of a plate, the manifold goes up from the head and I have plenty of access to the oil filter
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2004 Discovery 2a TD5 Auto Aspen Green AKA Robin
2000 Discovery 2 TD5 Auto Alverston Red AKA Edward
1997 Discovery 1 TDi Manual White - Gone but not forgotten
1994 Discovery 1 V8 Auto - Gone once it consumed half the worlds resource of oil
TopicToaster
SupporterNot yet! .. not nicely anyhow.
I used two rubber isolator studs, but instead of vertical mount, they had to be used horizonally and not strong enough. 99% sure they will break. So I also zip tied the filter head bracket to keep it from breaking.
Will hold for a while, but no rough roads until then(no problem for now).
Have to find either find or make a solid rubber mount system. At the least it did solve the whine issue.
Remember tho, the manifold isn't the issue when adding the plate, the issue is just the location of the turbo drain hose, which in std setup is positioned under the filter, with barely an inch or so under the filter.
This was the initial issue I had when fitting the vertically oriented filter adapter, where the downward positioned fittings didn't allow easy routing of the fittings and hoses due to the drain hose. The solid pipe section is ok, get in the way if trying to use a spanner to tighten the filter hose fittings but can be worked around.
But as you have a different manifold and turbo setup, for sure you'd have had to modify the turbo drain assembly in some way .. either extended or whatnot.
As long as your drain hose doesn't run under the oil filter as it's setup, then the addition of the sandwhich plate won't really be a problem.
With the adapter thread, you can use whatever you like for the filter end, and then use whatever filter type you prefer too(eg. Z9 is cheap and easy to find being such a common item).
ps. Z9 has the same 3/4 -16 thread size as the std TD5 "Z614" type. And the main reason you can't fit a Z9 in a std setup TD5 is that the extra 40mm or so of length of the Z9 won't allow it in there. Same(similar) diameter 71mm vs 70mm for the Z9.
pps. I'd love to know what exact component of the 614 makes it 6-7x the price of the 'same' Z9 filter?
And finally, the last thing to be mindful of with that specific sandwhich plate design. The 1/8NPT ports look to be too close to the top of the plate housing, and almost certainly won't allow fitment of a usual oil pressure sender unit. Most electrical pressure sender units like the VDO360.004 have a barrel design type, and they're about 50-ish mm in diameter, and barrel and install port are close together. I'd guess you will need an extension to get the pressure sender to clear the hardware near/around and close to the oil filter bracket on the TD5. Shouldn't be an issue with the temp sender switch, as they should be a slim size and would fit easily.
Alternative to using the parts you shown, you could use these sensor adapter t-pieces. VPW t-piece contraptions.
I used them(kind'a sort'a) in my Tdi, and easy to use. IIRC, the td5 oil pressure switch is an M10x1.0 thread size, so you'd use that(but confirm the thread size first!!). Because of the location of and orientation of the pressure switch, you'd have to install the pressure switch to the and of the adapter piece, and install that before adding the next piece. tighten the adapter piece until it's tightens with the side port facing outwards, and then you would attach either your sensor, or another t-piece to give you both a pressure and temp port to access. Use thread seal(I used Lokseal).
You can purchase blanking plugs for those adapter t-pieces, which allows it for use as an extension if you prefer the sandwhich plate option... and the pressure sender unit doesn't fit due to interference.
Arthur.
All these discos are giving me a heart attack!
'99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
'03 D2 Td5 Auto
'03 D2a Td5 Auto
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