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    Deleting fuel cooler.

    Anyone here deleted it? Any issues?

    mine has failed for the last time.

    Redoing the plumbing and fuel lines as we speak.
    This pos is going in the bin. The engine bay will be so much neater.
    Hopefully the old girl won't explode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNQLR View Post
    Anyone here deleted it? Any issues?

    mine has failed for the last time.

    Redoing the plumbing and fuel lines as we speak.
    This pos is going in the bin. The engine bay will be so much neater.
    Hopefully the old girl won't explode.
    I think JohnP38 did.

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    Just after a sanity check on the revised cooling circuit...



    I'll be blanking off the oil cooler outlet and have removed the behind engine pipe and hose.

    The two lower fuel cooler outlets of the rad will both be blanked off.

    The suction side of the heater will join with the now hanging hose from the overflow tank tee (that goes to the pump inlet circuit, I think)


    I think this will work all ok - disregarding the issues of going without a fuel cooler / heater

    Cheers

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    Fuel cooler or EGR cooler?

    I have the egr cooler removed and that included removing the pipe from oilcooler and from the back of the engine.
    Fuel cooler I still have plumbed and good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervish. View Post
    Fuel cooler or EGR cooler?

    I have the egr cooler removed and that included removing the pipe from oilcooler and from the back of the engine.
    Fuel cooler I still have plumbed and good.

    Fuel cooler. The egr went a long time ago.

    Mines a '99 td5. It just had the uncooled egr setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNQLR View Post
    Anyone here deleted it? Any issues?

    mine has failed for the last time.

    Redoing the plumbing and fuel lines as we speak.
    This pos is going in the bin. The engine bay will be so much neater.
    Hopefully the old girl won't explode.
    Even if it doesnt explode IMO deleting the fuel cooler is a VERY bad ideea on a Td5 ... it will become powerless once the FT gets above 75*C and without the cooler it will definitely go above... the ECU reduces the injected quantity based on FT input too also your fuel pump will fail more often getting too hot fuel on the return, especially if the level in the tank is low

    I'd not do such huge mistake if i was you, you can fit a square type cooler like on the late facelifts with a bit of piping mod and that one is bullet proof, it'll last more than the vehicle
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    Even if it doesnt explode IMO deleting the fuel cooler is a VERY bad ideea on a Td5 ... it will become powerless once the FT gets above 75*C and without the cooler it will definitely go above... the ECU reduces the injected quantity based on FT input too also your fuel pump will fail more often getting too hot fuel on the return, especially if the level in the tank is low

    I'd not do such huge mistake if i was you, you can fit a square type cooler like on the late facelifts with a bit of piping mod and that one is bullet proof, it'll last more than the vehicle

    -Thanks mate, didn't realize there was a better version. I'll hunt one down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNQLR View Post
    -Thanks mate, didn't realize there was a better version. I'll hunt one down.
    search for PIB000080, even if it's used not much to fail on it as long as it wasnt physically hurt, a friend of mine addapted a D3 cooler (PIB500052) which is cheaper, a T piece is needed instead of the old cooler's coolant outlet, i have such a cooler prepared for when my original fails
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    yep, dumb idea to remove the fuel cooler.

    I like the idea of these air cooled units. Seems like the lowest the LR heat exchanger type will go is ~ 70c


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    Quote Originally Posted by FNQLR View Post
    yep, dumb idea to remove the fuel cooler.

    I like the idea of these air cooled units. Seems like the lowest the LR heat exchanger type will go is ~ 70c
    . I'm glad you realised that m8... on simple logic you can presume that without the cooler the FT is quite the same with the engine temp, or even higher and the fuel density compensation kicks in, see what happens above 75*C here: Fuel Density Compensation maps | DiscoTD5.com and the pump will not feel well at all when it's not much fuel in the tank and gets 90*C hot fuel on the return.

    at the end you can improvise the best way you can with any kind of cooler which fits just lower the FT somehow... in a nutshell, the lower the FT is the more power you get, that's why they run a bit better when you fill the tank with a lot of cold fuel on a hot day
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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