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    Alternative key fobs

    Has anyone had any success with programming their D2 for another car key fob? Obviously it would need to be a Valeo 4.33, but there are plenty of those. Question is, can they be mated to the D2 through the Nanocom. I'm sick of wearing out the buttons.
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    Yes, you can do this with the Nanocom.

    Alternative, you used to be able to buy a genuine Valeo fob off ebay, and you can just swap your circuit board and blade across to the new fob.

    Something like this might even work
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/40281475...zYO5jr19THiYQG
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    Yes, that one you linked to does work. It's what I have now. And it's lasted about 18 months. Maybe I need to blunt my fingernails....

    It would seem that any Valeo fob should work, and the blade is no issue, lots of them are around, even my OKA uses that profile.
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    Program with Nanocom

    Make sure u get right frequency (315 or 433 Megahertz) early D2 had 315

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnp38 View Post
    www.keyecu.com

    Program with Nanocom

    Make sure u get right frequency (315 or 433 Megahertz) early D2 had 315
    Thanks, John. Mine is def the 433. I've doe a few keys for it, due to a nameless indie losing the three I left with him... Lesson there somewhere. I have had what appear to be OEM, but the ones that came with the car lasted far longer than any of the replacements.

    Actually, it was the Peugeot flip that got me wondering. 433, Valeo. If the blade is the same. or changeable, that's the one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
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    Actually, it was the Peugeot flip that got me wondering. ....
    I don't know of any Pug key blades that will fit.
    Back as far as 406 model era (approx 1999-ish)... blades won't fit.
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    I get that, Arthur. It was the 433 thing that interested me. I'm not too bad with locks and could figure out a way around that, or of course find a flip that is 433 that also has the correct blade. I would even consider using a seperate fob like the D1, or my old Ford, used to have, but I don't think that's a goer.
    D2 keys are weak. I'm really interested if the key fob comes with numbers the car, via the Nanocom, can recognise. I think I'll waste a few $$$ finding out.
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    I want to switch to flip type fobs.

    Couple of things annoy me with the D2 key.

    1. key blade eventually gets wobbly in it's plastic seat

    2. lanyard hoop too small for most reasonably sized rings

    Nice to have flip away blade for storing in pockets too.

    D1 key is far more durable. I've changed maybe 3 or 4 D2 key fobs in less time that I've had the D1 key. Same blade

    Info: D2 key blade is known as HE75 but LR blades of this era and earlier are HE38. D2 can use HE38 blades, but those keys are all full keys, not the separable blade type that the D2 uses(ie. HE75) So HE38 are for D1 RRC's and all manner of early rover/Leyland type era cars.

    I got a supposed flip key case/fob with no electronics some years ago for the D2, and it's supposed disco 2 blade doesn't fit. the blade is too thick, maybe not much but enough that cant' be used. Case is also weak, but being a flip design, the key actually feels stronger than an old worn out D2 blade(once they get loosey goosey).

    I got bare cases off aliexpress to counter the button/case wearing problem. They cost about $3-5, basically same as you in that they last roughly 1.5 to 2 years. Probably last longer if I looked after them a bit better, washed hands properly after greasy work on car ... etc.

    I have a couple of Peugeots too. 307 and 3008. 307 has a 'similar' blade holding design as D2 case, but it's retained by a small screw/nut, not just friction fit slide in like the D2. So once the key is fixed, it's a lot more solidly held than the D2 design.
    3008 uses a flip case. Much nicer to have when key is kept in pocket.

    I like the stuff that the key mob that johnp38 linked too. the flip keys look nice ... may have to order a couple I reckon.

    But for cheap way to get a new case again, aliexpress bare cases, and just use your board and blade.
    Arthur.

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    Agree with all of that. My OKA has the same blade, but the combo switch is out of a Leyland Terrier or somesuch. I also got one of those flip keys years ago, same issues. I'm going to explore some more.
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    I really doubt that you can program a fob which was designed for other vehicle unless it's using the same RF receiver like the D2(the only one i know is the Rover 75) ... so that's what you must investigate, if the RF receiver is different or it's part of some CAN-BUS module you can forget about it cos the simple fact that the fob is made by Valeo for the same frq is irrelevant.
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