ABS Module - Need your Thoughts

**JayBee75** · 4th April 2009, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Skiboy

Dear Feral

I nearly died when I was told the cost - it crossed my mind to get out of land rover all together today. But my brother reminded me that the capital cost was low - more than made up for with the repair cost it would seem though.

Anyway it seems someone is having a lend of me then - which is what I thought - hence I dashed to this site for the good goss.

And reading this it would seem more than one person has be had on this one.

I will go the $120/$145 route as mine seems intermittent. Hence cannot be a major failure – car only done 110,000 km!

The tutorial you posted the link for is great - most helpful. Even tempted to fix myself – no sure about the bleeding and how to know I have done it correctly.

I think I will buy this part - take it to my regular (NON LANDROVER) mechanic (who used to own a Rangie so loves looking after me) and NOT pay $2,700 to the local independent (i.e. non Landover dealer but specialist Landover only mechanic) who said my Oct 99 D2 ASB could “not be rebuilt” and that the NEW unit would only be guaranteed for 20,000 km and would cost $1,000 to repair if it failed.

Unless I am misunderstanding something here you guys are saying my Oct 1999 build unit CAN be rebuilt with a small relatively cheap part.

Skiboy

SkiBoy, this is the communication I got back from the company in the UK if it's any help. I just provided them with the serial number. They also indiacte if its tested and found not be be faulty they just cahrge a small testing fee, so all you are up for is the postage, so then I ask whether it's worth it?

Hi there,

We can remanufacture your unit if you send it in to us.

Address:
ECU Testing
23A Church Street
Eastwood
Nottingham
NG16 3HP

Tel: 01773 535638 9am-6pm Monday-Friday & Saturdays 10am-4pm

Please make sure you include your name, address and telephone number with your unit when you send it. The typical cost of remanufacturing this type of unit is £195 +vat, all rebuilds come with a 2 year warranty. We recommend you send your unit Via FEDEX / UPS Express or another equivalent courier service. The rebuild would normally take around 2 - 3 days to complete, you can pay via credit/debit card or PayPal once the rebuild is complete. Return Postage to Australia would be £50 via UPS Express.
If you want to prioritise your unit then please fill in, print and then submit this test form: ECU test form remember to include the printed copy with your unit.

The cheapest I have seen here is $1300 which I think is very cheap, to my local LR repairer who tells me it needs a full rebuilt (whatever that means) they charge $1800
I think at teh price you have been quoted, they are loosening your belt and bending you over.

**JayBee75** · 4th April 2009, 04:13 PM

Aside from the descitption that Feral has provided earlier in the post with the ABS links, there was a post somewhere on the forum where one of the guys did a step by step picture breakdown of changing and tesing the abs modulator on a repair they did for their D2.

It also showed heim soldering points on the shuttle valve to either bridge the connection or keep the circut permanently connected? Not sure.

However does anyone know eher this post was, I cannot find It!

**Timka21213** · 6th April 2009, 06:35 AM

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**rabs999** · 15th May 2009, 09:34 AM

I posted a while back that I had similar issues with the three amigos and the fault codes said the Wabco was stuffed (mines an '02 D2 V8).

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...d-finally.html

I got a fully reco'd unit installed for $1300 kiwi which I thought was pretty good. I think you PM'd me about it JayBee75? So far it hasn't shown and signs of causing trouble (touch wood).

The UK deal looks sharp tho, adding the hour and a half of labour it took to install mine, which including the bleed and system test, it makes for a reasonably affordable fix. No doubt there will be more cases such as mine popping up to provide some reasonable reference with regards to reliability and cost.

**JayBee75** · 15th May 2009, 08:55 PM

Hey Rabs, Yes the UK option is still there for me if required. At nearly 50 pence to the $ it's the highest it's been for some time, so even more beneficial. This will be my choice if my next action does not work.

I actually have got my hands on a spare unit so I am investigating either just putting that in, as it tested fine, or still try the switch first in the one in the car.

Will let you know how I go. If all fails then one of the units will be off to the UK. Might even get the wife to take it on her trip in June, ontop of picking me up my CDL lever!

**Urban Panzer** · 15th May 2009, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by JayBee75

Hey Rabs, Yes the UK option is still there for me if required. At nearly 50 pence to the $ it's the highest it's been for some time, so even more beneficial. This will be my choice if my next action does not work.

I actually have got my hands on a spare unit so I am investigating either just putting that in, as it tested fine, or still try the switch first in the one in the car.

Will let you know how I go. If all fails then one of the units will be off to the UK. Might even get the wife to take it on her trip in June, ontop of picking me up my CDL lever!

Just for interest, I have used that company several times for rebuilt / fixed VAG ABS modulators. So far been excellant service from them.

Will let you know how I go. If all fails then one of the units will be off to the UK. Might even get the wife to take it on her trip in June, ontop of picking me up my CDL lever!

Any chance she can bring a D2 ARB Winch bumper this way ???

**JayBee75** · 16th May 2009, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Urban Panzer

Just for interest, I have used that company several times for rebuilt / fixed VAG ABS modulators. So far been excellant service from them.

Any chance she can bring a D2 ARB Winch bumper this way ???

LOL,

Thanks Urban Panzer, yes also checked them out myself, have a lot of family in the UK, so my cousin looked into them for me, as well as my communication with them I was very impressed.

ARB bar hey, Not sure if that will meet the luggage limit requirement. I am already treading carefully as she is bringing back a CDL lever from Ashcrofts for me, and along with the Sahara bar I have just got and a few other things, I am doing well for someone who is not meant to spending money on this car!

Cheers
JB

**SteveT** · 16th May 2009, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Graeme

I don't touch the pedal as the pump does the job. Do it with the ign OFF and be careful the reservoir doesn't run out of fluid due to the volume that can be drawn-off. I refill the reservoir after each wheel and only run the pump when I have the bleed tube ready. Never have I had it so easy to bleed brakes!

Hey Graeme could you be a bit more specific on how to do this like which pins you attach the spade bits too?
I am going to replace my ABS module with my mechanic and would like to bleed the system afterwards (his scanner can reset codes but not bleed the module)
thanks in advance
Steve

**Skiboy** · 19th May 2009, 07:58 AM

JB and Others - all good stuff.

My mechanic (non LR) says he can get a new unit for $1800 plus fitting.

What is the web address/email of the UK mob that are reconditioning these? As my truck has only done 110,000 km I doubt it is stuffed - it is the electronic faulty bits that are the problem (shuttle valve sends out a fault signal)

I am not sure I want to fix it as I went serious 4x4ing two weeks ago with 2 comp trucks and one with double maxi lockers (my rangie ute comp truck) and the D2 traction control kept up with them (to everyone's surprise).

So I was left wondering if I have a real fault or just a fault signal?

What is the risk of NOT "repairing" or replacing the ABS unit?

Skiboy

**SteveT** · 21st May 2009, 07:34 AM

Firstly I changed the shuttle valve unit in my module no luck lights back on 1 week later same code.
I am now trying this option.
I paid money into their account on the 20/5/09
Land Rover Discovery ABS Pump/Module ECU WABCO - eBay, Land Rover, Car Parts, Cars, Parts Vehicles. (end time 23-May-09 19:17:16 AEST)
I paid a total of $666 as I am not going to send my unit back keeping it here as a spare.
They still offered me the 2 years warrentee

The break up was
Unit: GBP 195
Postage via UPS : GBP 60
Non return of my unit: GBP 70

total : GBP 325 or AU $666

I will let you all know how long it takes to arrive and of course the result after we have fitted it.

Steve

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