D2 V8LPG vs TD5

**vogue** · 6th March 2009, 08:09 AM

Hi all, after a 2 year absense of owning a Land Rover, i can't wait any longer. My current '97 Prado has recently cost me over $5g for a new engine and lots of other problems with only 240000km on clock.
So i'm after a D2 '02-'04, but don't know which to get the V8 or TD5???
The V8's seem a few thousand cheaper, but the gas convertion will make the cost about the same. I am planning a big trip to the Kimberly and am worried about lack of range in the V8, however i love the sound and power.
I am also very worried about reliability and ongoing maintience costs of the TD5. I have never owned a diesel before so it's all new.

Please give me your thoughts, what should i buy?

Thanks
Alex

**Redback** · 6th March 2009, 08:18 AM

Personally I'd go a TD5 04 model, 10 to 11/100k Vs 16 to 24/100k and 400k to 450k Vs 700k to 800k range for touring, no brainer really.

Baz.

**Hendrik** · 6th March 2009, 08:32 AM

I agree with Redback, go the TD5, much more economical and you can chip it to have about the same power as the V8 anyway. Its great for touring, i just did a week trip to Fraser on only 2 tanks, and for me its a 4.5hr drive just to get to the barge. The Td5 isn't as unreliable as many say they are, get one with a good service history and your set.

Cheers
Hendrik

**Camo** · 6th March 2009, 08:58 AM

Id go the 4.0 V8 with the LPG

More power

will do 300,000k's before you even need to touch the motor unlike the TD5 which cost a fortune.. one of the worst landy motors by far

V8 sound

Cheaper to buy..

Don't need to worry about range.. heaps of fuel stations up that ways..800k range is not needed

Camo

**29dinosaur** · 6th March 2009, 09:10 AM

I have a V8 but only use as daily drive, and a few minor excursions. It cost me at time about $7K less than a TD5. Must admit that the issues with TD5 scared me off but having spoken with owners with reliable ones I'd be happy to change - if I could. (Bit locked up with finance at moment).
Go the TD5.

**Camo** · 6th March 2009, 09:14 AM

The guys Ive talked to who have changed from V8 to TD5 .. well they miss the power

Why would you wanna do that?

D3 Diesels are getting cheap now.. might be worth the extra? They seem to go really well

Camo

**waz** · 6th March 2009, 10:12 AM

I have an 02 Td5 auto and a friend has an 01 V8 (without lpg) auto.

On the road, I get 11lt/100km; he gets 14lt/100. This would get worse if he put on LPG.

The V8 is just effortless and responsive in the way it handles offroading. Td5 does experience some turbo lag but the economy starts to shine as his dulls.

If range is your concern, could you put in a larger tank?

I know this hasn't helped with your problem. I love my Td5, he loves the V8. Drive them both.

Neither of us have had any reliability issues.

W

**BigJon** · 6th March 2009, 11:29 AM

Hmm,

Coke vs Pepsi,

Rum vs Scotch,

AFL vs NRL,

V8i vs TD5,

I think it all comes down to personal preference.

**vogue** · 6th March 2009, 11:38 AM

Thanks for all the reply's, please keep them coming.
Either vehicle that i buy will have around 100,000km on the clock. What are the potential big expenses that i may need to factor in over the next 100,000km. After lots of problems with my Prado i want to keep the big expenses down, not including sheduled servicing.

**mrapocalypse** · 6th March 2009, 12:20 PM

Hey Vogue,

My advice is to be wary about plans to modify.

Firstly I have a d2 V8 on LPG with Long range tanks, so in Theory I can get about 1300K without filling! Good start....

Trouble is that your LPG installer might not be the most sympathetic Land Rover spanner man there is, and the system can and does affect your vehicle in several adverse ways, sensor readings and the under bonnet area is insane with pipes and crap going in all directions and lots of chafing etc! None of which either the LPG man can or will understand and the Land Rover Mechs wont go near!

That said, if you want to buy a TD5 and chip it, then buy a V8, and chip it, put a big bore exhaust on, connect it to LPG from a good, recomended installer, get the rebate and have change left over.... that's lots and lots of fun at 53 cents a litre!

My long Range Tanks cost me almost $3000 for 165l. They re extremely heavy, and i still haven't got round to getting the last 50litres out of the bottom of the tank due to improper insrtallation (Courtesy of LPG man)That really hurt and didn't go to plan at all.

The only really common fault that you will have to keep a close eye on is front drive shafts, now a well documented replacement item at about every 50K! Door locks are also a bit of a pain.

Get one with ACE, it's amazing, although you'll get sick of the soft ACE standard springs in about a week with any load and the front bumper will look pretty sketchy after any decent off road trip. They were my first mods and made the difference. CDL very important. me and my Mrs absolutely love our Landy, and it gets used heaps. Great car! And reliable despite what you will have no doubt heard! Just look after it and go to a recomended mechanic, like Coopers in Syd, MR in Bris!

Happy hunting.

Ian.

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