Thread: D2 Roof Load and GVM

I think your math is a little out...

200kg for the adults
100kg for the kids
leave the standard type rubber on the standard rims (you can change rubber on ally rims with just tyrepliers)
40kg for the full engel
+60kg for the replacement fuel tank+the extra fuel it holds (assuming that your replacing the main tank and not adding another 150l tank)
theres 400kg of stuff you just cant get rid of

you now have 200kg left over

50Kg for a front bar with a bunch of lights
20kg for cloths (assuming just a 2 day trip)
30kg for tent and bedding

leaves you with 100kg

30kg for a basic kitchenette draw with a small gas cooker and sink
30kg for 20l of water
20kg for basic tools/recovery gear
20kg for the rest of the draws system

If you design the draws system correctly it will take care of the requirement for a cargo barrier. but you could swap out the 20kg of the draws system for the barrier.

and your 25kg underweight on the budget.

dont forget that the weight of a landy isnt the cut down weight quoted by some other companies but includes the spare, full fuel, and all the kit that comes with the vehicle.

I came in under 700kg over tare for the cape trip and I had 300l of diesel 40+l of water, engle, recovery gear, an advanced tool kit, air compressor, dual batteries 3 spare wheels, hi milers, HD steel split rims, oils, parts, swag, food, cookiung gear, tarps + me.

Thanks for the info.

Any idea on the roof loads and if you can put a rooftop tent up there etc.

Hi Chris

Took the D2 (2" lift, AT's on alloy) over the Simpson via the French line (East-West) last August.

Had a full roof rack (50kg) and a rooftop tent (45kg) and 2 gas bottles (5kg) and bull bag (10kg) on top.

No problem.

To keep under the GVM however, I left the rear draws (100kg) the rear seats approx (100 kg) and the muddies on steel wheels (an extra 100kg over 6 wheels) at home.

Regards

Discotek

I've never had a problem keeping under the GVM (2 adults, 2 kids) buit the roof load is another issue. This was the subject of a protracted and heated argument between myself and LRA - the 50kg/30kg limit applies to gutter mounted roof racks according to LRA. Which basically means by the time you've put the rack up there you can carry a couple of bags of sugar and that's it

having said that we've used a rack and generally carry the second spare, gas bottle, chairs, a bag with sleeping bags, mats and some odds and ends. Personally I'm happy to do this than have to worry about a trailer.

cheers, Andy

In regards to the roof load, can insurance refuse a claim if it is found that you have exceeded the 50kg limit (which from reading above sounds as if it includes the rack itself)...??

Originally Posted by catch-22

In regards to the roof load, can insurance refuse a claim if it is found that you have exceeded the 50kg limit (which from reading above sounds as if it includes the rack itself)...??

Most reputable insurance companies would only refuse a claim if they think that the overloaded roof contributed to the accident. They may also reduce a payout if additional damage is caused by the fact that the roof was overloaded.

It is highly likely that the maximum allowable roof load weight of 50kg's is more to do with vehicle stability rather than structural strength issues.

I know it's convenient to have the spare wheel and gas bottles up on the roof but these heavy items significantly change the point at which a vehicle will roll over. Half filled fuel and water containers are particularly dangerous as the load shifts at the slightest change of direction.

I only ever put the lightweight items such as the air beds, clothing, bedding etc up top. For a family of 5, even this stuff still exceeds 50kg's anyway.

Cheers
Martin

There is no doubt it can take the weight. I usually have the 30 kg tent (a BlackWolf Turbo 300 PLUS), gas bottle, 4WD mats, sleeping bags and pillows in a Rhino bad and I stand on there (90 kgs) to pack it all with no issues. I have a defender 3/4 rack which spreads the weight over 6 legs.

There is a slight difference in stability but only very slight. And only at higher speeds. No where near dangerous, however..

Interesting topic this, always wondered on this myself when its stated at 50KG's and most roof tents way that much, my SD rack must way 30 KG's or more on its own!!