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    Radiators - learnt something new today

    The cooling system in my TD5 and I haven't had the best relationship up to now and today was no better. Short story is that when my head gasket went last year the radiator was one of it's victims. I replaced it along with a number of hoses etc. I recall that it was a not genuine.

    Ever since then the cooling system has always been a concern to me. Whilst in the Victorian high country my top radiator hose blew (new genuine) on one of the joiners. When I changed the hose I broke the bleed line back to the exansion tank. Bugger!

    Bush repair carried out and I returned home to replace the radiator again. Job done and now I have the remains of two radiators as trophies. Two weeks go by and today on returning home I again notice the dreaded red blood of the coolant. The fan shroud screw hole was leaking in the tank.

    On closer inspection the following lessons were learnt.
    1. The non genuine tanks had a poor plastic mould quality control. Both the broken bleed nipple and screw mount had inconsistent wall thicknesses.
    2. The fuel cooler pipes for the lower 4 vanes were not clear(completely blocked by design with the exception of a bleed hole). Out of the box the hose pipes had to be drilled clear for the fuel cooler. The oem version was clean.

    Now I am not saying that all non genuine parts are of poor quality or that even the genuine parts are better, I am saying that I should have compared the parts better prior to replacement.

    Am I ignorant of the normal practices of motor mechanics or can I reasonably expect to purchase a radiator "for my car" and not have to modify it for it to do it's job?

    I wonder how the car will go now the fuel is getting cooling.

    Btw I managed to make a good tank out of the spare bits I had collected and it appears to be holding. The endcaps come off easy enough. Now to take the newest tank back for a please explain.
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    Not good to hear,You can repair the bleed line nipple, drill it out and tap it and fit it with a 1/4" BSP nipple, done mine 2 years ago and no worries yet.I am replacing my Tank very soon but only cause its the original and 8 yrs is a good run from a RAD I think..

    Would love to hear the explanation if you do return it..Hope all goes well from now on...


    Cheers Ean

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    With the right fluids and periodic changes, my raiator mob (Natrad) assured me that a good radiator can last 20 years.
    Funnyly enough heat kills them.

    I bought my Disco of a member here who had it well serviced and when I did all my fluid changes as I do, the radiator came up very good(touch wood someone).

    11 years and still strong.
    Trick is right fluid and change the stuff every 2 years so I have been told.

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    Follow-Up from the pelase explain discussion on the radiator:

    1. "you've got a hose connected to that?"
    2. "Nah, one should be blocked and the other should have a restrictor in the line"
    3. "Yeah we will replace the radiator with the leak from the screw hole but no refund."

    So now I have another new radiator in the box under the house. PM me if you need a radiator in the southern sydney region after hours (not 24/7).

    My thoughts on the whole restrictor / blocked lines is that ever since I put the new style radiator in (when the head gasket blew) the car has always raised its temp under heavy load going up hills (especially with the big tyres, chip and intercooler). I don't recall this issue from before though. I shall confirm though as I suspect that my model needs this additional cooling.

    Does anyone have any other experiences on this? Note that my engine is late 1999 pre EU3 spec.
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    radiators

    Leaks from the shroud screw holes on aftermarket radiators seem fairly common.
    Probably a combination of the holes drilled too deep and entering the water passages or the shroud screws too long.(They only need to be half the length they are)

    Easy fix is to cover the screw thread with gas tape or similar teflon tape and refit.For added insurance fit a small O ring around the screw shaft as well.

    Trev.

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