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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojo View Post
    There is the no frills G-Professional model available (probably not in Oz, though), exactly what you are looking for. It even comes with plain steel rims.
    Prices start at € 65.000 for the SW and about € 60.000 for the HT and include German GST. Now, how's that???
    Cheers

    Anyone got an idea about the spare on the model pictured in Jojo's link? The wheels on the car are steel, but the spare looks odd.

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    I think you'll find the spare is flipped on the back door, and it's just a plastic insert that makes it look odd. There are two Professionals in Australia currently undergoing compliance testing as well as standard for Oz D&P airbags & ESC testing - on sale later in the year. A local stealer in Melb was offering test drives as well.

    English Car have a good overall review.

    Mercedes G350 Bluetec LWB (2011) CAR review | Road Testing Reviews | Car Magazine Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagoo View Post
    Is the civilian G wagon really aimed at the Defender market or the Disco one?
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    A bit of both?.Base spec defender and the higher one gets into the disco.Then there's the AMG which is Overfinch RR. Pat

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    That was a good in-depth review. Thanks for posting all that info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solmanic View Post
    Got a phone call from the local Mercedes dealership yesterday to let me know that they had a G-Wagen on the floor. "Is it the diesel?" I asked - of course. Why would they have a $220K AMG one sitting about?

    After my morning meetings I thought why not - so I popped in for a tyre-kick and test drive.

    Firstly - here's a pic (from the interweb, not one of mine) just to keep the "must be pics" crowd happy...


    Anyhoo - I turned up and had a good sticky-beak before a salesman came over. I don't know what kind of customer he thought I was but he must have attempted to profile me as he walked across the room and just plain got it wrong. "Look at this bad boy..." he said - I presume he was referring to the car and not me. He then proceeded to show me the engine (didn't know where the bonnet catch was) and the in-car entertainment system before I barraged him with more meaningful questions concerning ground clearance, towing capacity, cargo area, suspension etc etc.

    The sales manager moved the vehicle out of the showroom and we went for a drive... and here are my impressions, specifically compared to the Defender...

    Engine - what engine. It is probably the least diesel sounding diesel I've heard. It in fact sounds like a rough running petrol engine. Once you get inside it's like stepping into the cone of silence. They might as well be TV screens placed all around the car simply showing you pictures of what's outside. When you stab the throttle however, you remember it is a diesel, and modestly sized one at that (2.9l). It is a 7 speed automatic that moves up through the gears smoothly but does get a bit violent when kicking down.

    The driving position is probably the single most impressive thing about this car. It is without a doubt, the closest thing to the Defender in so far as you have that clear view of the corners of the vehicle and feel for where everything is at. Both diffs line-up directly under the driver's left leg, nice and easy for when you need to place them over an obstacle. And you will need to place them as ground clearance is some 30-40mm less than the Defender. Still, it's pretty good. Suspension is reassuringly simple and mechanical - solid axles, coil springs and the biggest trailing arms and stabiliser bars I've seen. The exhausts also exit sideways, forward of the rear wheels but don't stick right out like the AMG ones.

    With the flattish sides (like the Defender) and frogseye indicators on the front, I felt very comfortable manoeuvring the vehicle confident that I knew exactly where things were around me. The cabin is surprisingly compact but certainly not short of space where it's needed. I could reach across and open the passenger's door if I had to. The only weakness is the massive blindspots at the rear corners where there are no windows, but of course there is a panoramic reversing camera mounted over the centre of the rear door.

    The G-Wagen has diff-locks front, centre and rear as standard! All push button. High-low range is also push button and easy to use. Since the salesman knew nothing I just guessed that you needed to put it in neutral to do this and sure enough that was how you did it. Double pushng the gear lever to the left jumps straight from drive to low gear. Low-low is not quite as slow as the Deefer, but still impressivey slow. Holds well downhill and you can also use the cruise control to set a fixed speed if you want from 30km/hr. Uphill the automatic doesn't pull at idle, you need to use the throttle, but in low range it is extremely easy and has immense travel for good control.

    On the highway the power is fine. Not mind-blowing but more than enough. Brakes are the same as the AMG version and will pull you up faster than if you hit whatever it was you were trying to avoid. The brake pedal was however, adjusted up way too high so I kept catching my shoe on it. The first 1/4 of its travel did nothing then your eyeballs popped out of their sockets.

    Inside there was all the standard climate controlled, iPod audio, memory seat fluff Range Rover and Discovery 4 owners are probably used to. Not really my cup of tea and I could do without most of it but I'm sure the wife will love it. Even though the European models have cloth trim in base spec. we only get leather here. Cloth is a special order and it remains to be seen if that reduces the price at all or they charge more for the inconvenience.

    Mercedes offer a lot of useful accessories like towbar and rubber mats as well as plenty of not-useful ones like ambient mood lighting (WTF). There is apparently a standard Merc bullbar but I suspect it is the Euro-spec one that turns into a pillow if it hits a pedestrian. We'll wait and see if ARB offer anything in future. The sales manager assured me that this is now a standard line item and their dealership allocation is three per month. If this is true at least we may see useful numbers of G-Wagens coming onto the market so aftermarket mobs have a reason to develop some stuff.

    When we got back to the dealers, I asked some more probing questions about loadspace and how big a dog I could fit in with the seats down. The salesman, and sales manager couldn't work out how to fold the rear seats forward so I'll have to go back next week to find out more. The sales manager got a bit excited to think that they may have a customer who was actually going to use the thing off-road. I told them I had a place I wanted to test it properly if they didn't mind a few scratches - they did.

    Price? About $160K with GST and luxury car tax. Insurance? Don't ask. You wouldn't believe me.

    Would I buy one? If my accountant told me I could, in a heartbeat. It's like a Defender and a Range Rover rolled into one but better built, and with better coffee at the service centre.

    And finally, if I did, does that mean I can't hang out here anymore? I'll keep my Land Rover keyring.


    A cross between a Deefer and a Rangie...but better built? At $160K....I'm lost!! Those comparisons just don't equate. You could rebuild and "Improve"...in some people's mind, a Deefer how many times over for that $$$$ Is that effort actually possible? Isn't a Deefer the best at what a Deefer is designed to do!

    Have you driven a D4? or RRS?.....for another $60K + on top....Jesus, it could fly to the moon.....or you could just add bars and side steps and hybrid wheels and, and, and...still have $$ in your pocket.

    Or as I suspect anybody who shells out $160K would do....never take any of these things into consideration.....and decide on how 'Flash you want it to look'.....a G wagon compared to a LR.....LOL!!!!!

    Sorry mate, just don't get it!

    Best I go drive one....Just for a chuckle....

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    Hi all just wanted to let you know I copied this outstanding review on to the Jeep forum ausjeepoffroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtoid View Post
    A cross between a Deefer and a Rangie...but better built? At $160K....I'm lost!! Those comparisons just don't equate. You could rebuild and "Improve"...in some people's mind, a Deefer how many times over for that $$$$ Is that effort actually possible? Isn't a Deefer the best at what a Deefer is designed to do!

    Have you driven a D4? or RRS?.....for another $60K + on top....Jesus, it could fly to the moon.....or you could just add bars and side steps and hybrid wheels and, and, and...still have $$ in your pocket.

    Or as I suspect anybody who shells out $160K would do....never take any of these things into consideration.....and decide on how 'Flash you want it to look'.....a G wagon compared to a LR.....LOL!!!!!

    Sorry mate, just don't get it!

    Best I go drive one....Just for a chuckle....
    DON'T DO IT! You may come out of the test drive contemplating how much you'll get if you sell the kids for scientific research.

    I have driven a D3 and RRS and have to reiterate, my main reason for being impressed with the G-Wagen is the driving position. The D3 & RRS both feel too big. Yes, the seating positon is nice and high, but I still feel like there is just too much car around me in them. The Defender has a unique driving position where you are basically looking down on the front corners of the vehicle and the flat sides (albeit pressed against your right leg) just make you feel more in control of where everything is on a track.

    The G-Wagen has more of this feel than anything else I've been in. So taking the fact that I chose the Defender over anything else on offer, if the price was in any way realistic I would choose the G-Wagen too.

    But I agree - the price is the thing that doesn't compute. That's why this possibility of the G-Wagen Professional is so intriguing. THAT would be a vehicle I want to see compared directly to the Defender in some sort of measured test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solmanic View Post
    DON'T DO IT! You may come out of the test drive contemplating how much you'll get if you sell the kids for scientific research.

    I have driven a D3 and RRS and have to reiterate, my main reason for being impressed with the G-Wagen is the driving position. The D3 & RRS both feel too big. Yes, the seating positon is nice and high, but I still feel like there is just too much car around me in them. The Defender has a unique driving position where you are basically looking down on the front corners of the vehicle and the flat sides (albeit pressed against your right leg) just make you feel more in control of where everything is on a track.

    The G-Wagen has more of this feel than anything else I've been in. So taking the fact that I chose the Defender over anything else on offer, if the price was in any way realistic I would choose the G-Wagen too.

    But I agree - the price is the thing that doesn't compute. That's why this possibility of the G-Wagen Professional is so intriguing. THAT would be a vehicle I want to see compared directly to the Defender in some sort of measured test.
    It'll be interesting to see how many of these things hit the street in their $160K guise....

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtoid View Post
    It'll be interesting to see how many of these things hit the street in their $160K guise....
    Yeah... with pimped out wheels and black tinted windows, and a complete ****** in the driver's seat who has no clue what all the other buttons do!

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    For that money I'd buy a nice D4 and a Defender for weekend play and still have change left over.
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