G wagon hopeless

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

Somehow I doubt it :D
I don't get why we're getting snippy with each other over things like fuel economy.
Jeez, we just had the soapbox shut down because it was getting "a tad vitriolic", lets not do that here. :no2:
Like it or not, The G Wagen is a new chapter in the ADFs vehicular history.
Better, worse or the same is the Landies is yet to be seen, for now they're just different.
Can't we all play nicely? :D
No need to start slinging accusations and thinly veiled insults, if you've got an issue with someone, shoot them a PM or something.
:D :D :D
Smile people, Monday is nearly over :p
Cheers
Muppet

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What the??? My exact point. Who cares what the government buys. We won't make any difference. Muppet, I'm not cranky at all.;)
Regards
Robbo.

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Originally Posted by robbotd5

What the??? My exact point. Who cares what the government buys. We won't make any difference. Muppet, I'm not cranky at all.;)
Regards
Robbo.

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Didn't mean you mate, things just seemed to be getting a bit tense in the thread :D
Sorry for any confusion :)

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Originally Posted by robbotd5

Wouldn't it be funny if we were somehow at war with Germany again? Them buggers would know exactly how to take em out, come to think of it, they probably have got and undetectable explosive device fitted from the factory where they were made for that very reason. Times have changed so have a bit of fun. Sure it irks me the most because our army is buying vehicles from a former mortal enemy, but so do all the people who decide to own Jap cars. Just me..fire away!!!!
Regards
Robbo

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They probably already have it written into software, sometime after outbreak of WW3 all Australian G-wagens & Unimogs mysteriously become Kaput .

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Originally Posted by peter5111

Regarding LR not bidding for the Defender replacement, from my understanding of Project LAND 121 , the goal was not just a bunch of Defender replacements.

(I Thought) The overall goal was to have a single manufacturer supply the entire fleet (except specific, specialized vehicles), from small 4x4 vehicles right up to road trains, with everything in between. It wasn't just to supply the vehicles, but also to provide the logistics chain, deeper level maintenance and engineering support for the whole lot of 'em for 25 (?) years. <snip>

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That was a stated intent of the original tender, however it was relaxed when they realised that there was no acceptable manufacturer other than Mercedes who could meet those terms.

Even when it was relaxed Ford Premier Automotive Group who were in the process of selling (/looking for buyers for) Volvo, Jaguar and Land Rover still declined to tender.

I cant help thinking about the Hilux, so heres some pictures of a fine war vehicle.:p


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/81.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/82.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/83.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/84.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/85.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/38.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/86.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/87.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/88.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/89.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/37.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/90.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/91.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/92.jpg

another one
From Somali Technicals and AFV Photos

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Admittedly not a very good photo of the Land Rover technical, but you can just see the 106 mm recoilless rifle mounted in the bed. You can certainly see the dilapidated condition of the vehicle itself. There were only half a dozen rounds in the back of the truck, and several of those were rolling around outside of their protective canisters.

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http://membres.multimania.fr/france40/photos/rover.jpg

The South African Defence Force used to use Series 3 R6 109-inch LRs with the 106mm RR for AT duties........until we captured several hundred thousand RPG-7s and the AT role became a walkabout job......

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Originally Posted by juddy

...heres some pictures of a fine war vehicle...

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You left out this one:
http://www.megacruiser.com/img/military/army0037.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/44.jpg

And which idiot was it who said the bad guys don't drive land rovers???

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British taxpayers paid £8m to buy Land Rovers for Mugabe thugs

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British taxpayers paid £8m to buy Land Rovers for Mugabe thugs | World News
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...2012/10/45.jpg

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Originally Posted by juddy

I cant help thinking about the Hilux, so heres some pictures of a fine war vehicle.:p
... <snip>

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this is still my favourite
LiveLeak.com - Fail ! Don't try to design a Recoiless Rifle Vehicle without an Engineering Degree !

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Originally Posted by PAT303

Blindered by my 14 year old Tdi and my new TDCi that keep on keeping on when EVERYTHING around them fall down,thems are the facts.Why did the sway bar fall off?,do you get it serviced?,do you actually check over the vehicle after a trip?,it would have been loose for a long time before it ''fell off''. Pat

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My sway bar actually inverted and all the rubbers fell out so my fault there, LR can breath a sigh of relief. I have since worked this out after posting it fell off.

The comment I made about LR sitting on their hands with development was made with things like brakes in mind. Yes your Defender may beat a land cruiser or whoever you went up against in training. But if LR can get a RR or a Disco, both heavy cars, to stop much more effectively than why not go the small yards for a a Defender. I'm no brake expert but I think there is pistons in callipers, and brake boosters generally to a system.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if a Gwagon stopped better than a Defender so little things like that go into a decision as to why we now have Gwagons.

Just perhaps you could think a bit broader before you so easily state someones statements are rubbish. Its a forum without visual expression and detail, slow replies sometimes, and only words. This thread is another example of people having a go at each other all over the place.

my apologies to all for now being way off topic, but keen to get back to those weird looking Defender alternatives.