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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    Meanwhile,

    Kill the environment buy a Prius
    Toyota's Prius is Less Efficient and Environmentally Friendly than a Hummer? (The Torque Report)

    Funny how electric cars never compare burning coal to make electricity vs burning petrol or diesel.

    Save the planet, buy a Defender and keep it for 50 years
    I remember seeing years ago that after a cradle to the grave analysis, I think it was the Jeep Wrangler or similar that came out best because of their manufacturing processes and the hybrid vehicles were nowhere in sight.

    That said, I'm still impressed by the consumption figures of the new Volvo XC90 of 2.1litres/100km! Not bad for 2t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gusthedog View Post
    Well they will give you cancer but produce less co2 and CO. 😊

    And of course engine remaps are illegal from an emissions point of view.
    Thats the same as unleaded fuel.

    I recall my university chemistry lecturer going on a spiel about how the lead in leaded vehicles after combustion falls out onto the road and there is sits. Unleaded vehicles however produce a carcinogenic gas that sits in the air and gravitates towards lower laying areas where it can collect. He said, don't live in valleys!
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    The news media overseas is more interested in the green credit tax payed out than the pollution.

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    I freely admit that I haven't done the Science on this, but indications are that the BAS remap has made my Defender more fuel efficient, at least on the Highway. So my question would be: Which gasses and how much of them are reduced by the EGR? Do they actually reduce emissions if they make vehicles less fuel efficient?
    The Defender should also be given credit for it's longevity, given that, as I once read, more emissions are caused in the production of a vehicle than it will produce in it's life time.(On average).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    Thats the same as unleaded fuel.

    I recall my university chemistry lecturer going on a spiel about how the lead in leaded vehicles after combustion falls out onto the road and there is sits. Unleaded vehicles however produce a carcinogenic gas that sits in the air and gravitates towards lower laying areas where it can collect. He said, don't live in valleys!
    Correct... In Adelaide they fitted Air Quality units on a few primary roads to test Lead levels pre and post Unleaded roll out.

    The statistics are available online.

    Interestingly, in Adelaide, as Lead levels dropped post unleaded intrduction, there is a notable increase in cancer levels in another report...

    It continues to rise...

    When I was working for CAMS as a Scrutineer we had to inspect vehicles inside their garages at the tracks.. The big team bosses would often close the roller doors and start the vehicles - in an effort to encourage us to hurry up and leave... That stuff burns (and is highly carcinogenic)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    When I was working for CAMS as a Scrutineer we had to inspect vehicles inside their garages at the tracks.. The big team bosses would often close the roller doors and start the vehicles - in an effort to encourage us to hurry up and leave... That stuff burns (and is highly carcinogenic)
    Its the sweetest smelling and most addictive fume also! The sugar of exhausts!

    Interestingly also, when racing fuels were brought back to either 98 or 100 octane they started using gloves etc and handling it properly.
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    What was that Castrol oil, Corse,(?) in the 70's that smelled oh so good, a rally car favorite. I wonder if you can get it in 5W30, i would buy it tomorrow.

    Lead has also been linked to violet crime, mainly via brain damage to the young

    Forbes Welcome

    Now, who did more damage to the environment than any other individual, invented leaded fuel and fluorocarbons i believe. (No its not the CEO of VW )

    Are we off topic yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    What was that Castrol oil, Corse,(?) in the 70's that smelled oh so good, a rally car favorite. I wonder if you can get it in 5W30, i would buy it tomorrow.
    ... ... ...
    Back in the 60s, a friend of mine had a side valve Hillman. He used to pour a bottle of castor oil in the tank and remove a small plug screwed into the exhaust manifold.

    The smell of the fumes that leaked back into the cab made him feel as if he was driving a racing car.

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    The story in the Christian Science Monitor said the software detected the vehicle was being operated in the mode used for emissions testing (steady speed, stable revs, wheels straight ahead etc) and cut the fuel flow. Once the mode of operation changed it reverted to full fuelling, which increased emissions of nitrous oxides by up to 35 times depending on the model. Fuel economy might improve, but emssions results would breach the latest American rules. In other words, the cars were poisoning the atmosphere and people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    The story in the Christian Science Monitor said the software detected the vehicle was being operated in the mode used for emissions testing (steady speed, stable revs, wheels straight ahead etc) and cut the fuel flow. Once the mode of operation changed it reverted to full fuelling, which increased emissions of nitrous oxides by up to 35 times depending on the model. Fuel economy might improve, but emssions results would breach the latest American rules. In other words, the cars were poisoning the atmosphere and people.

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    Oxymoron?

    And yes, of course the emissions are entering the atmosphere / people...
    The challenge is what we will accept, and which poison we will accept...
    Benzine, NOx, CO, CO2, BPA, Toluene.. the list is endless...

    Then we could go on about Radiation, Phones, Screens...



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