Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

The Specsaver thing cuts both ways. If I went to Specsavers, my wife would look even less like a supermodel than she does now.

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Interesting development in California: Shell have pulled out of the H2 game and are closing all of their H2 refilling stations... citing cost and technology.
It's not surprising: what with a boiling point some 56 Celsius degrees below that of nitrogen, if you don't "use it you lose it"... so as soon as you fill the tank it begins to boil off ... and since there is no such thing as a perfect insulator, it boils off and the safety valves operate to keep the pressure within the safety margins... good luck with that!![bigwhistle] then there's the problem of hydrogen embrittlement of the metals used to construct the storage tanks.... Good luck with that Twiggy!! ...

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You can't burn hydrogen in an ICE. If you don't liquidify it there is barely enough room for a driver, and if you do as you've mentioned it boils off all on it's own. Stupid

And if you do fuel cell by the time you've done all those phase changes and had all the losses along the way, unless you're greating the hydrogen with 100% renewables you're going to be worse off than just burning dino fuel.

These discussions are so funny with people that know nothing about the science.

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These discussions are so funny with people that know nothing about the science.

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Hilarious you make this assertion knowing zilch about the post grad science quals of some contributors [bigwhistle]

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Hilarious you make this assertion knowing zilch about the post grad science quals of some contributors [bigwhistle]

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I literally design these things for a living. The ignorance within this thread is embarrassing.

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Ineos Introduces the Fusilier—One Vehicle, Two Powertrains, and a Hint at Hydrogen

Don.

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Well I've missed my bet then, when I heard Ineos were going to make a hip, urban model, I thought it was going to be a SWB Grenadier tarted up like a Khan 90.

Got this from INEOS this morning.8 NIGHTS: 4-12 MAY, 2024
SA Expedition | INEOS Grenadier IE

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Got this from INEOS this morning.8 NIGHTS: 4-12 MAY, 2024
SA Expedition | INEOS Grenadier IE

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Have you registered yet Spud?

Registering is the easy part...getting the Mrs to pay for it is the difficult bit. Besides I would feel guilty heading away on that trip as I know the Mrs would miss me....

If Land Rover had introduced this vehicle as it is now as a replacement for the Defender, how do you think it would have been received?