Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

**Tombie** · 2nd July 2020, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

A friend of mine asked me about the Grenadier a couple of days ago. He has been looking for something since his 300Tdi got more or less driven into the ground by one of his employees. He had to replace one of his Landrovers anyway by something that meets mining company's safety standards. Presumably the Grenadier would? He ended up getting a dual cab of some kind, I can't remember which one. Part of his problem was finding a manual transmission which did not take too much effort to operate at a constant speed on rough ground. He finds his TD5 ideal for that.

It will need to be full 5 star to be mine spec.

**W&KO** · 2nd July 2020, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Tombie

It will need to be full 5 star to be mine spec.

All depends on the mining company.

We have no requirement for ancap rating.....

**Arapiles** · 2nd July 2020, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tombie

It will need to be full 5 star to be mine spec.

It's not going to be 5 star:

The Ineos Grenadier ..... will protect occupants in a crash, but will fall short of a five-star result due to a lack of advanced safety aids and a focus on heavy-duty hardware, the company says.

Ineos Grenadier won't have five-star safety | CarAdvice

“So, we will not have a five-star rating but we will have a vehicle that crashes very well and rolls very well. And if you want to roll well, and don’t ‘explode’, you will have to have compromises in other features,” Heilmann opined.

No five-star safety rating for INEOS Grenadier - www.carsales.com.au

**Arapiles** · 2nd July 2020, 11:46 PM

FT thinks that the paint quality is going to be an issue .... along with a number of other things ....

**Red90** · 3rd July 2020, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by Arapiles

FT thinks that the paint quality is going to be an issue .... along with a number of other things ....

What??? You realize we are looking at a clay model and computer rendering?

**Tombie** · 3rd July 2020, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by W&KO

All depends on the mining company.

We have no requirement for ancap rating.....

True. If you want to supply the big players in Aus though it will be AC5.

RioT
BHP
FMG

All require it - and are the volume customers.

RT and BHP are the prime reason Toyota fitted SRS into the 7x Series and updated the Hilux.

**Red90** · 3rd July 2020, 07:23 AM

Hiluxes have advanced safety aids? That mean auto braking and accident avoidance.

These would be really useless on a mine site.

**one_iota** · 3rd July 2020, 07:31 AM

The latest:

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Ring any bells?

**grey_ghost** · 3rd July 2020, 10:06 AM

I am following this with interest, and I think that it looks great (apart from the tail lights), and it sounds like it's a great design.

BUT

I have read that at release - it's only being sold as an automatic... (Hardly a direct Defender replacement)

And the starting price is $80k... (Hardly a direct Defender replacement)

For the people that have said that it will be a cheap vehicle, in my eyes $80k isn't.

I still like the look of it, and will keep an eye on it - but it's not "cheap".

Cheers,
GG.

**Red90** · 3rd July 2020, 10:49 AM

The price is not known yet. It is unlikely to be that high.

It is not set in stone that there won’t be a manual.

Relax. Sit down. Wait for real information.

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