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    Saw one on South African review with 35's - looked good

    Great they are talking to 4x4 accessory manufactures and that fitting their accessories with in reason wont void warranty.

    50mm lift with 285 70 17's would make this ideal with other factory options ticked i.e. winch, snorkel, diff locks etc.

    The only problem i could see is that might be restricted to light bar as traditional driving lights may obscure inset high beams

    Those of you that have seen one in the flesh may differ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    Loanrangie , why do you think they didn't?

    Surely if it was viable they would have.
    Not sure but suspect their 'direction' changed (unfortunately in my view). My bet is the Grenadier will sell in numbers such that it will be viable and it is a company keen to get it right at all levels. Option one up fully and I dare say it will be $100k on the road but given its build and what those accessories are (including 17 inch steel wheel options with agressive all terrains etc, bull bar etc) i would much rather that over what the $100k would buy in any Land Rover current product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Not sure but suspect their 'direction' changed (unfortunately in my view). My bet is the Grenadier will sell in numbers such that it will be viable and it is a company keen to get it right at all levels. Option one up fully and I dare say it will be $100k on the road but given its build and what those accessories are (including 17 inch steel wheel options with agressive all terrains etc, bull bar etc) i would much rather that over what the $100k would buy in any Land Rover current product.

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    Grenadier recovered several vehicles from a nearby mining company in the floods.

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    [QUOTE=Tombie;3130438]Sitting in both the front and back - it’s much larger by comparison.

    No squash against B pillars, significant leg room for both front and rear passengers.

    When I was in the back - 3 full width seats - Em had the front seat set for her with plenty of room. I had about 10 inches between my knees and the back of her seat.
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    Eh, well, err......puts the rest of us poor mortals to shame

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    She wishes!

    Hung like a cashew Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    She wishes!

    Hung like a cashew Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

    Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?
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    Went out to the Scenic Rim Adventure Park on Tamrookum Creek Rd, Sth of Beaudesert last Friday afternoon for a look-see. Came away somewhat impressed at the comfort and suppleness of the ride. It has ample power...
    It is truly an engineering prototype in every sense of the word in terms of the cabin layout...the fascia is 3D printed to give an idea of ergonomics etc. The windows are electric but the seats are "totally manual". There's no certainty at this stage about what's included in the base model... there's a school of thought that there might be three levels of fit-out to reduce production costs ...that will be announced in the next three months on their website "configurator"...

    After wading through the flood waters in Sth Aust the week prior, the vehicle had been driven to Beaudesert via Mildura and Goondiwindi. It has a 90 litre fuel tank. Based on the reported top-up stops of the journey, we calculated the range is comfortably (very) in excess of 1,000 km. The B57 BMW inline6 diesel and the 8sp ZF auto seem well matched.

    In July, the first run of "production" vehicles will be assembled and despatched to the UK, Australia and Sth Africa for Ineos execs and Agents for public test drives.

    They're talking in terms of producing a minimum of 30,000 vehicles per year initially and ramping up. US vehicles are not scheduled until late 2023 and they're not intending to offer the Nth American market a diesel version... At this stage, local customer deliveries are slated for late October 2022... What with the current European geo-political tensions this might be wishful thinking if energy supplies are interrupted...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4runnernomore View Post
    I think this is one of the best reviews yet I’ve seen so far. INEOS GRENADIER I We Drive "init" - YouTube

    from South Africa, gents presenting are larrikans and quite funny. They have raised some excellent questions and were actually getting answers from the Grenadier team.

    interesting points were the aftermarket manufacturers already gaining access to the vehicle to develop accessories.

    One thing I haven’t heard yet is will there be an option for alternate gearing (R&P’s) to suit larger tyres.

    Best thing seen in the whole clip i is the blue Grenadier with white hilights and aftermarket wheels and tyres on display. Yep sitting on 35’s and looks awesome. That’s was my colour choice any way, blue with the white roof. And with the white /cream hilights it looks even better in my opinion.

    the more I see the more I think this will be sitting in my driveway.

    cheers 🍻
    One of the gents in our group last Friday asked a similar question about diff ratios . The short answer was "No". The Ineos rep went on to explain the data they're collecting on the vehicle. I hadn't realised just how much engineering effort was being put into "optimising" the 'tune' of the engine with respect to the behaviour of the ZF transmission based on standard overall wheel size -either 17"or 18" rim. The overwhelming advice from the Ineos group that day was to opt for 17"steel wheels! The organisation is in discussions with ARB/OMEmu about after market add-ons including a potential 50mm lift (std clearance is 258mm) but for clearance enhancement, not larger wheel/tyre combination...which would then impact the optimisation referred to above. The other issue was that larger tyres increase stresses on axles etc and while they're being built for tough conditions, so-called hard core 4WDing is not part of the design. The existing design in standard form apparently will accommodate a 50mm lift without worrying for example about longer brake lines or significant changes to steering or drive train geometry! They also ruled out air suspension at the beginning because of potential long term reliability / getting "stuck" and unable to get "home"!
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    American spec engine bay (Petrol version)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    American spec engine bay (Petrol version)
    You can tell it’s the American version
    The Adams family hand has snuck in for a look (feel)
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