Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

Or a lot of other old cars for that matter.

Originally Posted by Deefa

I found it was fine. Just a footrest for the side not doing any work in an auto.

As I mentioned probably the thing I dislike the most in the whole vehicle is the fact that there are no instruments in front of the driver. Not a deal breaker but a major disappointment for me. I have driven an old Nissan Xtrail (not mine!) with similar setups and they are dangerous. These are just prototypes, but I doubt that's going to change.

Dangerous? Or just not within your comfort zone?

The vehicle has HUD for speed, and a glance in any direction covers the rest. After all mirrors arent direcrtly in line of the drivers sight either, we need to glance at them too

Originally Posted by Tombie

Dangerous? Or just not within your comfort zone?

Good question. Given that no two carmakers put dials etc in the same location isn't it just a matter of getting used to it?

I’ve had an X trail and it takes a couple of weeks to get used to the gauge position then it becomes second nature - kind of like driving a vehicle with the indicators on the opposite side.

Originally Posted by 123rover50

Hey Brian. Old Land Rovers did not have instruments in front of the driver either
Keith

Yes, true enough Keith. Just have to get used to it. Its a first world problem as they say.

So the Ineos dealer for Brisbane is like 2k from me. I went down there yesterday and checked them out. Turns out the people running it have quite an established reputation (This is a positive). Despite the name these are not caravan people trying to sell cars.

They've got a big new premises and are still building. They may outgrow it but it looks pretty good. I suspect the biggest problem they are going to have is getting cars to sell.

Personally I'm really struggling. Our defender at 18 is going great but we are really struggling with the size of it. Having to fit five people in in, 4 of whom are over 6 foot it's really not at all pleasant. But the car has so much history with us, and is going as well as ever.

Anyway the Grenadier prototype will be there for a week from the 11th. Will be keen to have a look.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

So the Ineos dealer for Brisbane is like 2k from me. I went down there yesterday and checked them out. Turns out the people running it have quite an established reputation (This is a positive). Despite the name these are not caravan people trying to sell cars.

They've got a big new premises and are still building. They may outgrow it but it looks pretty good. I suspect the biggest problem they are going to have is getting cars to sell.

Personally I'm really struggling. Our defender at 18 is going great but we are really struggling with the size of it. Having to fit five people in in, 4 of whom are over 6 foot it's really not at all pleasant. But the car has so much history with us, and is going as well as ever.

Anyway the Grenadier prototype will be there for a week from the 11th. Will be keen to have a look.

The three within striking distance of me are all very well established multi franchise operations. One caters for Haval and LDV, up through Suzuki and Nissan, and on to Alpine! Another has an extraordinary range, including Audi and LR alongside Isuzu and a host of others. These are not fly by night mobs either. I guess all that Ineos money counts for something.

Originally Posted by Tombie

Dangerous? Or just not within your comfort zone?

Dangererous? Possibly. Comfort zone, or muscle memory?

Anything that requires you to think about how to react can delay that reaction, possibly creating a more dangerous situation.

If the Grenadier was the only vehicle you drove then you would probably train yourself in time to just look to the left. However for most of us, we drive several vehicles and every time we change vehicle we would need to think about where to look, meaning eyes are off the road for longer.

Old Minis and Land Rovers had the instruments in the centre to simplify production, but there’s a reason new Minis and Land Rovers have them in front of the driver. It may sound trivial, but I just don’t see any upside to putting them in the centre when there is a potential to increase risk. Just poor HMI design.