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Thread: Ineos Grenadier, do you reckon it'll take off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANDLOVER View Post
    While watching the Tour de France Stage 12 the other night I spotted one alongside the road on the stage from Roanne to Belville-e- Beaujolais. Not an Ineos team support vehicle by the looks of it, as they prefer wagons/or sedans with low roofs for accessing the bike racks on top.
    I've seen two over two days so far, parked beside the road so probably spectator's vehicles... :-)

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    Spotted my first privately owned one in Canberra this afternoon.

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    I'm really scratching my head at this last price rise. If you go for the Trialmaster which I think most people should, and then add a couple of options you're nudging 140k.

    I suspect that's one price rise too many for me. I don't know who's going to buy them. They are too expensive to be a utility 4wd and not flash enough to be a luxury SUV.

    My prediction is they will keep busy for a while delivering cars of early adopters (who paid quite a lot less), but once they have delivered them they will struggle to sell in any numbers. I honestly can't see the brand being viable in Australia at that price.

    Like I'm sure they will sell a few to cashed up people.. but if they had stayed with their well priced utility promise they started with I honestly thought they would have sold them in the tens of thousands.

    It makes me quite sad to say this - but I can't see how they will sell enough to be viable for a dealer and support network. Maybe they know they can't produce enough for the moment so set the price to sell what they can build. Maybe they are hoping to hold the price and let inflation catch them up. Dunno. Maybe they will have discounts or something. Who knows.

    But I sure can't justify 140k for a car I really only drive on holiday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    I'm really scratching my head at this last price rise. If you go for the Trialmaster which I think most people should, and then add a couple of options you're nudging 140k.

    I suspect that's one price rise too many for me. I don't know who's going to buy them. They are too expensive to be a utility 4wd and not flash enough to be a luxury SUV.

    My prediction is they will keep busy for a while delivering cars of early adopters (who paid quite a lot less), but once they have delivered them they will struggle to sell in any numbers. I honestly can't see the brand being viable in Australia at that price.

    Like I'm sure they will sell a few to cashed up people.. but if they had stayed with their well priced utility promise they started with I honestly thought they would have sold them in the tens of thousands.

    It makes me quite sad to say this - but I can't see how they will sell enough to be viable for a dealer and support network. Maybe they know they can't produce enough for the moment so set the price to sell what they can build. Maybe they are hoping to hold the price and let inflation catch them up. Dunno. Maybe they will have discounts or something. Who knows.

    But I sure can't justify 140k for a car I really only drive on holiday.
    I agree. It showed great promise as a replacement for the "classic" Defender. Maybe they are banking on the "urban cool factor" generating sales. The only upside for us with a classic Defender is that the resale market for ours with genuine cool will remain buoyant
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    You never know, they may sway some of the people who are on a wait list chasing 300 series Landcruisers or other 4WD's that are in the same ball park $$ wise. Whether that will be enough to sustain the brand is another story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by one_iota View Post
    I agree. It showed great promise as a replacement for the "classic" Defender. Maybe they are banking on the "urban cool factor" generating sales. The only upside for us with a classic Defender is that the resale market for ours with genuine cool will remain buoyant
    I was seriously bang up for a Grenadier - but I just can't live with the thought of a 140k 4x4 being beaten senseless in the desert or with a leaky pippy bucket in the boot on Fraser.

    I really only use our cars for holidays. It's a lot of money to have sitting around all year in the garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    I was seriously bang up for a Grenadier - but I just can't live with the thought of a 140k 4x4 being beaten senseless in the desert or with a leaky pippy bucket in the boot on Fraser.

    I really only use our cars for holidays. It's a lot of money to have sitting around all year in the garage.
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    Should have had removable seat bases, that's practical.

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    G Wagon with 1.1 Ton payload?

    For $130k many people would be better off with a used G Wagon Professional which has a 1.1 Ton payload and probably less risk of poor parts availability I would suspect!

    And they can be legally converted to a 5 seater with approvals.
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    Just had a quick close up look at 4 Grenadiers at the Brighton dealer.

    My observations:

    All colours look really good with lovely paint finish. My favourite was the metallic blue ( was a Trialmaster). Metallic red and magic mushroom also very nice.
    Leather recaros really really comfortable
    Front glove box tiny!
    Rear storage space excellent
    Im 6ft. Footrest seems ok.
    Rear seat legroom behind 6ft driver seat was just ok but a tad more would have been nice
    You could unbolt the back seats to have a complete level floor ( level with the top of the battery / fuse compartment)

    Would I happily buy one if I had a spare $130k? Probably!
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