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Utes are 2100KG rear,1300KG front.Don't know why it is slightly less than GVM.Probably safety margin.
Many upgrades around if you want more,there are even GCM upgrades.
It would be working pretty hard dragging the stock GCM around,yet alone any more.....
My son drags 5.5T GCM with his,regularly,and it is working pretty hard,particularly up the big hills.
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Production resumes next month. It's not entirely clear what the resolution has been. There's speculation that parent company INEOS may have bailed Recaro out, but there is also talk that an Italian seat mob is involved.
Tipping INEOS has learned a lot about supply chain.
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I see that my local dealer is running a special "ignition edition" grenadier. "save 18k on the new ineos grenadier ignition edition wagon". It says they are trialmaster specification with checker plates, roobar, sidesteps.
Ineos have also extended their "free GST" on purchases of any grenadier they have (maybe not new orders). I'm not sure if the ignition editions get this as well.
I remain convinced that ineos have made a really big mistake. Too many price rises, too soon (Before they had even delivered a car). They are not competitive in the market at those prices.
They should refund the few people who actually paid the new prices and adjust the prices permanently going forward.
I just plugged in a grenadier. Only two options were white (who makes the free colour a horrible blue??) and a roo bar. 121k. I'm pretty sure that's down from like 134 or something at one point.
The thing is I think that's still too much. IMHO it needs to be under a hundred. If you want to sell a utility 4x4 you can't expect to price it like a luxury 4x4. IMHO they need to be at or near the price they promised at launch. Somewhere at least close to a 76 gxl wagon.
INEOS Grenadier pricing revealed - carsales.com.au
The problem is all the people that absolutely had to have the new cool car have already got one. Now they have to work hard to compete with buys who are actively comparing them to their competitors.
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The Quartermaster cab chassis is becoming popular... some interesting stats on the sales thus far..
MY99 RR P38 HSE 4.6 (Thor) gone (to Tasmania)
2020 Subaru Impreza S ('SWMBO's Express' )
2023 Ineos Grenadier Trialmaster (diesel)
Ineos are giving a large contribution on the tray.. and they have sold a handful.
Meanwhile on the wagon the ignition edition is 18k off and it's till 119 OTR. I'm unclear if that also gets the free GST offer (You'd think not).
This article is one year old. Ineos don't report sales as they aren't FCAI members but it looks a lot like once they delivered the initial orders which were at launch prices they are struggling to make new sales. They have been GST free (discount program) for the last part of this year, and there are other promotions running too as mentioned. I remain convinced that they have priced themselves out of the market with their price rises. They should have kept the launch prices until the brand had gained some inertia and then lifted them. Instead we had a barrage of price rises before the first cars were even delivered. And now sales have stalled.
How many Ineos Grenadiers have been sold in Australia? | CarExpert
Meanwhile in the grenadier forum on FB someone posted "hi i've driven to bunnings and now it's raised a engine light and refuses to start". One commenter said "try again in five minutes" which turned out to be the answer. Another one said in one year his had been back to the dealer 10 times.
I was bang up for one - dodged a bullet there. I'm not paying top $$ to be someone's prototype tester.
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Ineos news from a UK source:
Seats and UK sales. Starts at 5:10.
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