Thread: Whoops - who forgot the landing gear

The other factor in some accidents is the gear warning horn is set at a too low manifold pressure to prevent it going off in flight at low power settings.

So if you forget the gear and do a nice stable approach easing off the power gradually and gently you don't get the horn until you are deep in the flare. Almost too late, and could be mistaken for the stall warning...

Sorry, I don't believe the "it can happen to anyone theory". Flying really isn't a hard skill to learn, but discipline is.
What about using the aircraft checklist prior to landing, or at least memorise a system to check that you have gear down.
How about conducting pre take-off, airborne, top of climb, top of descent, pre landing checks. Form some good habits when flying and you will avoid an expensive and embarrassing flight.
From my little knowledge of fixed wing flying, there is 2 dick head alarms when landing, one is the stall (aural) warning, the other is wheels down and locked (visual) green lights.
The military pilot, would of also been asked to confirm 3 green by ATC prior to landing.

Greg

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

thats an amateurs attempt,

let me show you how the pros do it.

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New images of C-17 wheels-up at Bagram (with video)

they actually jury-rigged thta C17 sufficiently for flight - flew it back to the West Coast of the US and rebuilt it - not a bad effort

Greg, yes what you say is 100% true in that we have to have good habits etc. BUT, it does not take much to distract from these habits, even having someone sit next to you to talk too can be enough to forget simple stuff. Think about driving you land rover, its easy to go on autopilot and not be aware of whats really going on around you. Human factors they call it, deep and meaningful stuff.

That military one is a suprise though, they would have multiple pilots, multiple warnings systems to prevent that, be interesting report to read

Bigblackdog, yes I agree with you it easy to be distracted, that is why you need discipline and stick to a checklist of some sort. We call it Cockpit Resource Management (CRM) a great tool to have, even when flying alone.
For instructors to tell their students that they will have a wheels up landing is pretty poor. I just don't see how it can happen with the cockpit indications and a basic checklist.
Sure when driving the Landy we might switch off a bit, but i know i'm on the ball when i need to park it.

Greg

Yeah for sure, although it could be interesting to see the reaction when you tell them they WILL do a gear up one day! , but poor form instructing.

Is rather be told that its going to happen..

they never say it will be the students fault. Sometimes mechanical things just dont do as asked and you have to improvise around them.

Bit like skid pan training. You hope its something you never need to use because of what you're doing, nice to have it when you need it tho.

"You know your gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal"