Thread: Air Malaysia missing.

I bet there's a few subs lurking down there by now also looking for radio transmissions.....

then again I guess they wouldn't make that public news.....

Originally Posted by disco man

IMO a lot of countries are very careful to disclose how good their satterlite technology really is. I have noticed no pictures have been offered by the USA yet surely they have got one flying around that area same for russia. I also think the USA could have sent one the nimitz carriers down to help there is one normally in the indian ocean the extra planes and choppers would be a huge help given the capacity to stay on station in bad weather without the need to fly back to RAAF base in perth. any thoughts on this bob?

Logistics safety and the fact that carrier borne stuff isnt usually equiped for that sort of search work.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

Logistics safety and the fact that carrier borne stuff isnt usually equiped for that sort of search work.

I could be wrong but i am fairly sure the sea hawkes are used for search and rescue along with sub-hunting they have just brought in a long range sea hawk which is pretty much the same as the carrier borne ones just with extra fuel capacity but like i said i could be wrong. Also the early warning warfare aircraft could fly at slow speed and altitude to be effective. I bet if there was americans on that flight a carrier and a couple of subs would be in the area.

Guys, the reason they haven't found anything from MH370 in the search area is because there is nothing from MH370 there. Surely if it was there Jindalee would have 'seen' it ,

All they have to go on, is some yet to be proven algorithms from an Inmarsat satellite ping

The US have not shown any satellite imagery because they don't have anything plausible to show or they really do know where MH370 is and are not telling anybody, The Chinese and French satellite imagery are probably showing images of stuff that fell off this ship MOL Comfort's Stern Sinks in 4,000 Meters of Water [PHOTOS] - gCaptain Maritime & Offshore News

One thing for certain the loss of MH370 has shown how inadequate modern technology and military capability can be in such a situation

Amazing photos but surely that would be taken into account by the search teams

Originally Posted by disco man

I could be wrong but i am fairly sure the sea hawkes are used for search and rescue along with sub-hunting they have just brought in a long range sea hawk which is pretty much the same as the carrier borne ones just with extra fuel capacity but like i said i could be wrong. Also the early warning warfare aircraft could fly at slow speed and altitude to be effective. I bet if there was americans on that flight a carrier and a couple of subs would be in the area.

using sub hunting tech would be fairly well useless at this point.

the aircraft is currently doing exactly whats required for subs to prevent detection.

its sitting very still and not making any kind of emissions.

the early warning aircraft arent setup for identifying small bits of stuff on the surface of the ocean that arent doing much of anythnig, they're usually looking for very large pieces of equipment that are busy doing things and moving, often moving very fast.

as a very rough anology.

it'd be a bit like using an F1 racer to do a groceries trip in.

(This was a topic of discussion at work a week or so ago and the best answer that was arrived at was that Civilian aircraft need to have an ejectable black box and some kind of spooled marking beacon like a ship)

I have heard some wild theories about MH370 - but this takes the cake!!

Subject:
Maylasian airlines true story

America is withdrawing from the Afghanistan, one of their command and control system (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Talebans when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Talebans ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.

What the Talebans want is money. They want to sell the system to Russian or the Chinese. The Russian is too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it. So meantime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile the American has engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they are determined to intercept and recapture the cargo. The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American will not hijack or harm the civilian. So MH370 is the perfect carrier.

There are 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could be among them. When MH370 is about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, one American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.

How the AWAC can do it ? Remember 911 incident? After the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all the Boeing could be remote controlled by ground control tower. The same remote control system used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones. The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication system, changed course and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite. The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react professionally.

The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anambas, South India and then landed at Maldives (some
villagers saw the aircraft landing), refuelled and continued its flight to Garcia Deigo, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen. They believe only dead person will not talk. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot. The American has put up a good show. First diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australian is the co-actor. The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists.

Originally Posted by cruiser1

I have heard some wild theories about MH370 - but this takes the cake!!

Subject:
Maylasian airlines true story

America is withdrawing from the Afghanistan, one of their command and control system (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Talebans when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Talebans ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.

What the Talebans want is money. They want to sell the system to Russian or the Chinese. The Russian is too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it. So meantime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile the American has engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they are determined to intercept and recapture the cargo. The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American will not hijack or harm the civilian. So MH370 is the perfect carrier.

There are 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could be among them. When MH370 is about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, one American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.

How the AWAC can do it ? Remember 911 incident? After the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all the Boeing could be remote controlled by ground control tower. The same remote control system used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones. The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication system, changed course and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite. The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react professionally.

The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anambas, South India and then landed at Maldives (some
villagers saw the aircraft landing), refuelled and continued its flight to Garcia Deigo, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen. They believe only dead person will not talk. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot. The American has put up a good show. First diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australian is the co-actor. The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists.

well now that you know. then your dead man walking