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    Douglas DC 2.5

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    In 1941, a China National Aviation Corporation (CNAC) DC-3 pressed into wartime transportation service was bombed on the ground at Suifu airfield in China, completely destroying the right wing. The only spare wing available was that of a smaller Douglas DC-2 being overhauled in CNAC's workshops. The DC-2's right wing was taken off, flown to Suifu under the belly of another CNAC DC-3, and grafted to the damaged aircraft. After a single test flight, in which it was discovered that it pulled to the right due to the difference in wing sizes, the so-called DC-21⁄2 went back into service.[19]

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    Some pics and the story here

    CNAC's Famous DC-2 1/2

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    Connair flew a gooney for years around the Northern Territory before finding out in a major o/h that one wing was much shorter than the other.

    Apparently Douglas reduced wing size to aid the war effort and wings got fitted where and when necessary.

    I don't remember any of the pilots who flew hundreds of hours on the particular aeroplane , but do remember them saying they had never noticed that one wing was smaller.

    Connair flew a number of DC-3's and a fleet of DeHavilland Herons at the time.

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    Yep. I remember them (DC 3's) flying over our house regularly in the early 1950's when I was a kid. They are a tough old aeroplane!!

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    Back in the 50s we lived on an airport where there were many DC3/C47 movements by Ansett, ANA Holyman and TAA. There was also a DC2 occasionally as I remember flying on one.
    I learned to tell the difference between TAA which had P&W 1830 and some of the others with the Wright 1820, the latter made a lot of noise on takeoff as the prop tips went supersonic.
    It was a boys dream as I was able to climb in all the aircraft which came to the airport. DC2,3,4,6 V700,V800, B170, F27, Lincoln Bomber and many others.
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    Butler Air Services out of Sydney ran one up the coast. As a kid I flew down to Sydney from Coff's Harbour in one
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    They were built back in the day when a lot less was known about metal fatigue so were rather over-engineered. Gotta love the old Gooney Bird. If it wasn't for the Vietnam War sucking up all the spares, a lot more would be flying today.

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    Spent a lot of time in DC-3s, Qld, NT (including a charter flight from the middle of the Simpson to Brisbane), and PNG. in the 1960s and 1970s.

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    Great aircraft, Bush Pilot airways were still operating them from Cairns up Cape York and through the Gulf country (Normanton, Karumba, Mornington Island, Doomadgee) up until the mid eighties. I was working for TAA at the time and we were the handling agents for them in Mt. Isa. Their ZFW was considerably reduced from original weight figures due to allowance for age/metal fatigue. Great sounding engines those radials!
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    I don't think the weight reduction was for age/metal fatigue - I think you will find it was for engine out performance. When the aircraft was designed there was little in the rules about such items - all they had to do was convince the airlines that it would fly on one engine.

    However, it might be worth noting that the DC-3 has a MTOW of 11430kg, but the C-47 (and most "DC-3"s are in fact this military variant, 607 DC-3s built compared to over 10,000 C-47s. Plus relatively small numbers of other variants) had a MTOW of 14061kg.

    Since the civil authorities in this country at least took a dim view of military ratings, all "DC-3"s that had started life as C-47s would have been derated to the original DC-3 rating, although I believe at least some operators had dispensations to operate at higher weights, although I don't believe any were as high as the military rating. (Which does not mean that none of them ever did operate at these weights, especially on non-RPT operations.)

    The alloy used for the airframe, purely by chance, seems to be virtually immune to fatigue, which is one of the major reasons for the longevity in service of these planes.

    What actually removed them from most airline service was the extensive use of them by US military in Vietnam, depleting the stock of disposals spare parts that flooded the market after 1946. Even as early as the beginning of the seventies I remember reading that they operated more than half the world's scheduled airline flights, although clearly not that proportion of either passenger-miles nor ton-miles.

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