Thread: Austraia's F35. Lessons from a problematic purchase

Yes, why are some people so keen for war with China? Do they want to revive the discredited 'Yellow Peril' and 'Reds under the beds' rubbish? Sounds a dumb idea to me.
Do we want to crash out economy? The Chinese want to do business, not invade. Let's stop waving guns around like stupid Trump and instead concentrate on doing business to the advantage of Australia.
War is not in Australia's best interests. Trade is very good for us.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Yes, why are some people so keen for war with China? Do they want to revive the discredited 'Yellow Peril' and 'Reds under the beds' rubbish? Sounds a dumb idea to me.
Do we want to crash out economy? The Chinese want to do business, not invade. Let's stop waving guns around like stupid Trump and instead concentrate on doing business to the advantage of Australia.
War is not in Australia's best interests. Trade is very good for us.

Michael, the problem is CCP influence in our political affairs, and the wider region.
It is overt.

Having lived in Canberra for a number of years and worked around ANU for some of that time the influence the CCP was trying to exert via students and business was obvious.

My mate did his PhD at Canberra's ANU and he mentioned the CCP 'influence' on several occasions.

Yep, of course the Chinese are trying to influence us. So are the Yanks, British, French, Canadians, Indonesians, Japanese, Germans, Russians, Indians and others. The Brits own more of Australia than the Chinese.
Everybody tries to influence everyone else. That's world politics.
We're certainly trying very hard to influence other countries to our advantage. That's how the game is played.
Are we going to throw childish hissy fits about this, or are we going to grow up and act like nature adults?

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

The Brits own more of Australia than the Chinese.

given they founded australia, is that really suprising?

i work in IT security and for the most part, the only worry we have here in Aust is china. not Russia, not Indonesia, etc

Unless of course you work at Pearce Airbase North of Perth, where the main worry is the Singaporians....

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Yep, of course the Chinese are trying to influence us. So are the Yanks, British, French, Canadians, Indonesians, Japanese, Germans, Russians, Indians and others. The Brits own more of Australia than the Chinese.
Everybody tries to influence everyone else. That's world politics.
We're certainly trying very hard to influence other countries to our advantage. That's how the game is played.
Are we going to throw childish hissy fits about this, or are we going to grow up and act like nature adults?

The Chinese influence is very different, as the repeated cyber attacks on public and private institutions illustrate.
ANU had everything hacked last year, names addresses, everything siphoned off.
The CCP are much more aggressive than everyone else, and their bellicose and bullying attitude to their neighbours and anyone that disagrees with them is concerning.
South China Sea anyone?

Originally Posted by cripesamighty

Unless of course you work at Pearce Airbase North of Perth, where the main worry is the Singaporians....

is that the training school?