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    This is a photo of the plane I predominately learnt to fly on. And ASK-13 although there were other stars in the process like a Slingsby t-53b which were character building
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanoH View Post
    Was'nt Victa an Autralian company that couldn't get start up finance to build here so went to NZ instead? Our loss NZ's gain.

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    Not quite - they are an Australian lawnmower company that decided to get into aviation. They took the winning design of a competition run by, I think, the RVAC, for a training aircraft, the Millicer Airtourer, and converted it to all metal construction. It went into production in the late fifties, I think, initially with 100hp, later with 115hp, and was quite successful.

    In the mid sixties they attempted unsuccessfully to get protection against a flood of Cessna 150 imports. They had started on a four seat version, and also an Airtourer with 150hp and constant speed prop. The former was certified but none produced, the latter went into production.

    Following failure to get protection, Victa sold the whole business to AESL in NZ. They commenced manufacture of the Airtourer in 115 and 150hp versions, and redesigned the four seater as a two seat military basic trainer, which went into production as the Airtrainer, with the major customer being the RAAF, although it was also sold to several other customers, I think including the RNZAF and Malaysia. Following the completion of the military contracts, civil sales proved to be fairly thin and the company eventually foundered. The Airtourer Owners Association I believe bought the tooling and manufacturing rights from the receivers.

    The Airtourer is unusual for a modern training aircraft in that it is aerobatic. Also unusual is the high wing loading, which is achievable by having full span flaps - conventional flaps plus drooping ailerons plus a split flap under the fuselage. All flying controls are operated by push-pull rods rather than cables for no lost motion or spring. Also unusual is the sliding canopy and the use of a single control column between the seats with two throttles/pitch controls, at each side of the instrument panel. Flaps are manual by a lever on the left wall of the cockpit. Seats are fixed, with adjustable pedals. There are no toe brakes, braking being by a handle at each side of the panel. The lack of differential braking is not noticed - the nosewheel steering has a link to the rudder pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    I saw Beavers working out of Vancouver harbour last year. I took a flight in a turbo Otter.

    When we were there on a tour we had the option of
    a) a seaplane flight in a Beaver.
    b) a ride in a horse and cart.

    I kid you not the damn wife chose the horse and cart...

    Grrrrrrrrrr.

    I'm still peeved !
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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    When we were there on a tour we had the option of
    a) a seaplane flight in a Beaver.
    b) a ride in a horse and cart.

    I kid you not the damn wife chose the horse and cart...

    Grrrrrrrrrr.

    I'm still peeved !
    Surely you jest!

    I did a flight out over the mountains which still had a lot of snow and where some lakes were still frozen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    When we were there on a tour we had the option of
    a) a seaplane flight in a Beaver.
    b) a ride in a horse and cart.

    I kid you not the damn wife chose the horse and cart...

    Grrrrrrrrrr.

    I'm still peeved !
    Your missus would rather go for a ride in a horse and cart rather than get into the beaver? Bizarre !!??

    In other news I was looking for video of the Qantas A330-200 landing with the gear doors out... and I found this... which I think was much more interesting That's damn good flying...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PatP3YEVj1Y"]YouTube- Crosswind Landing - by Qantas Airbus A330-300 【VH-QPG】[/ame]
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    Nice flying.

    I saw a ripper of a cross wind landing at Brisbane Airport by a Thai MD-11. Came in at about 30 degrees to the axis of Runway 19., kicked it aroundon teh rudder at the VERY last minute - plenty of tyre smoke. Good stuff.

    ... of course if hadn't turned he would have collided with a LARGE tank of avtur !
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    Reminds me of a 737 I saw landing at Canberra one day which looked as if he was about to hit the ground with his wingtip - bad crosswind.

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    These blokes deliberately chose the cross runway to try a cross wind landing !

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMN26EWioss&feature=PlayList&p=3DE64D1C469 BEC6D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=50"]YouTube- Airbus A380 Crosswind Landing[/ame]

    (don't bother watching rest of the video after the landing it's boring-ish)
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    might be time for new undies if you were pax in this one:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtnL4KYVtDE&feature=PlayList&p=3DE64D1C469 BEC6D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=61"]YouTube- Top Ten Crosswind Landing Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport 1998 Japan Airlines Boeing 747[/ame]
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    How cool would this be?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYplNHxCRQk&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Passed by a 787 on final[/ame]
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