A drive around!

**JDNSW** · 12th March 2010, 07:27 PM

Since Tuesday, I have had my sister-in-law and her husband staying for the first time in years. So yesterday, before they left this morning, I took them on a tour of the property. We took the County, rather than the 2a, because her back is bad (they are both close to 80) and we went in some places I haven't been for a while. One track along a fenceline had a tree down across it, so we had to seek a bypass - as I said with remarkable foresight as we crawled over jagged rocks and fallen timber, "this sort of thing is hard on tyres".

Shortly after returning to the house, I looked out at the County, and observed a stream of water running onto the ground. "Blow it! I've knocked another hole in the water tank!" Not a disaster - it's not the first one. (has a 30gallon water tank under the driver). But then my b-i-l remarked "Yes, and you've got a flat tyre too!" I had not noticed that the front tyre on the side away from me was flat - the ground slopes away there. I had a look - and there was no trouble seeing why it had gone down - the piece of wood was still sticking out the side. This morning, after seeing them out through the forest, I took the wheel off and took it down to the village - they reckon its fixable, should be ready Monday.

John

**weeds** · 12th March 2010, 07:31 PM

could have been worse i suppose, i'm guessing these are the tracks you drove me around in the IIa

**JDNSW** · 12th March 2010, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by weeds

could have been worse i suppose, i'm guessing these are the tracks you drove me around in the IIa

Pretty much. I am going to have to get out with the tractor and blade.

John

**justinc** · 12th March 2010, 08:35 PM

Damn

.

What tyres are you using John? I serviced a 130DC today that had a set of M55 Toyo fitted prior to a round oz trip almost 24months ago. Did about 20K and so far they look about 30% worn. Throughout the trip he had no punctures, and the vehicle was pretty heavy

. I'm thinking of a set of these for touring, apparently I can get them in 255/85/16 so should be a good thing. A LOT quieter than the BFG mudders...

JC

**V8Ian** · 12th March 2010, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by justinc

Damn

.

What tyres are you using John? I serviced a 130DC today that had a set of M55 Toyo fitted prior to a round oz trip almost 24months ago. Did about 20K and so far they look about 30% worn. Throughout the trip he had no punctures, and the vehicle was pretty heavy

. I'm thinking of a set of these for touring, apparently I can get them in 255/85/16 so should be a good thing. A LOT quieter than the BFG mudders...

JC

I had Toyos on a Cruiser in the 80s, they were a brilliant tyre. The only reason I stopped using Toyo, was a claim refusal on truck tyres, that were being granted to larger fleets.

**JDNSW** · 13th March 2010, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by justinc

Damn

.

What tyres are you using John? I serviced a 130DC today that had a set of M55 Toyo fitted prior to a round oz trip almost 24months ago. Did about 20K and so far they look about 30% worn. Throughout the trip he had no punctures, and the vehicle was pretty heavy

. I'm thinking of a set of these for touring, apparently I can get them in 255/85/16 so should be a good thing. A LOT quieter than the BFG mudders...

JC

The County has Bridgestone 604Vs, and the 2a has Steeltreks, both 7.50x16.
I have had the same type of tyres on the County now for almost twenty years, and for the sort of driving I mostly do in it they are sufficiently satisfactory that I have not felt the need to change. Before the Steeltreks on the 2a I had bar tread crossplies. The Steeltreks are a significant improvement, and, again, quite good for the use the vehicle gets. With both tyres, most problems have been either staking or more commonly, faulty tubes.

John

Rangier Rover · 13th March 2010, 08:02 AM

Lucky you made it back by the sound of it!

I don't think it matters how strong a tyres construction is in a radial they are prone to this

We have a lot of trouble here for the same reason. The old 14 and 16 ply rated rag seem to be more resistant but are like walking on jelly fish out on the road

One thing I do find here, the wider the tyre the more prone to a side wall failure. The old 750X16 cheese cutters win hands down for durability and value for money.

Tony

**justinc** · 13th March 2010, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

The County has Bridgestone 604Vs, and the 2a has Steeltreks, both 7.50x16.
I have had the same type of tyres on the County now for almost twenty years, and for the sort of driving I mostly do in it they are sufficiently satisfactory that I have not felt the need to change. Before the Steeltreks on the 2a I had bar tread crossplies. The Steeltreks are a significant improvement, and, again, quite good for the use the vehicle gets. With both tyres, most problems have been either staking or more commonly, faulty tubes.

John

604V's are a great tyre, steeltreks also. But yes, most tyres can become the victim of rocks and stakes

, even 12 to 14 ply ones.

JC

**HBWC** · 13th March 2010, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Rangier Rover

Lucky you made it back by the sound of it!

I don't think it matters how strong a tyres construction is in a radial they are prone to this

We have a lot of trouble here for the same reason. The old 14 and 16 ply rated rag seem to be more resistant but are like walking on jelly fish out on the road

One thing I do find here, the wider the tyre the more prone to a side wall failure. The old 750X16 cheese cutters win hands down for durability and value for money.

Tony

triangle make a 7.50 16 32 ply radial

**Bigbjorn** · 13th March 2010, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by HBWC

triangle make a 7.50 16 32 ply radial

It took a long time for outback car and truck buyers to accept radial ply tyres. Sidwall damage was the stumbling block. Remember, the first passenger car radials were two ply walls and bulged out significantly, and were quite prone to sidewall damage. Most dealer orders from remote areas in my GM-H days ticked the option box for 6 ply tyres in lieu of the standard 4 ply bias tyres.

The Leyland Crusader was the first highway prime mover offered for sale in Australia with tubeless radial ply tyres as standard equipment. Michelin 11.00 x 22.5 on Michelin lightweight rims. We rarely managed to deliver one with this equipment. Almost all customers wanted the tubeless tyres and rims changed to 10.00 x 20's on split ring rims. Usual comment was along the lines of "they'll be no good" without ever having seen or used such tyres before. You would nowadays be pushed to find a late model heavy truck using other than tubeless tyres.

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