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    G'day Folks

    The pic is of Jeeps which is supplied each year by the Military Jeep Club of Qld for the Brisbane Parade these veterans are loaded and unloaded from a special ramp and platform at the start and end of the parade circuit, by VERY experienced members, some of these members are also WW11 veterans as well, so they know of the logistics,all the vehicles jeeps are supplied on a voluntary basis and have to meet a strict code of parade condition, there is also a small contingent of serving military vehicles in the Brisbane Parade,all of the privately owned Landrovers are there by request/invitation of the respective units

    Suburban Parades are slightly different,the last 2 years I towed the 105mm Pack Howitzer for the Artillery Assn in the city march, but this year I will be doing some local ones

    A lot of veterans are also carried in Golf Buggies in Brisbane march as well.


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    I See both sides of this discussion as, firstly, I own a military vehicle that participates in the parade and also, secondly, attend the AD March committee meetings and hear what they are up against as a body.
    Unfortunately the 'Elf and Safety' issue has declared quite some time ago that military vehicles were unsuitable for the carrying of troops, hence our soldiers are nowadays carried to battle in coaches or aircraft that are fitted with seatbelts rather than in the back of a Land Rover or truck, so it is a natural progression that from the Military's eyes, if they can be sued for carrying their own, how open are they to legal action if they carry someone else.
    Personally as far as the article is concerned, the military commander made the right choice.
    As for the photograph showing Jeeps, well, after all, that is what happens in Qld., the MJCQ, at the request of the AD March Committee, voluntarily supply these vehicles to carry the incapacitated diggers, and these would be the only photographs readily to hand to illustrate the story. Surely it is a bit much to expect a journalist to be intelligent and accurate, as well as imaginative!!
    As an aside, because of restraints inflicted by insurance Companies under the guise of Health and Safety and other "anti sue" bodies, veterans over 80 years of age pose a major threat to organising bodies of these functions in that the march is deemed a threat to the aged veterans well-being, and therefore an insurance risk. The responsibility of the veterans well-being falls squarely back on the shoulders (on this day) of the march organisers.
    We all know that the vast majority of the veterans are of the ilk that would never think of suing, but unfortunately in the real world there are many "hangers on" in most families, of later generation's thinking, who would see an accident such as this to be a windfall, ideal to supplement the existing dole!
    80 years of age has been the age limit set for quite some time by the Insurance Companies, but we never noticed it as it really only affected a minority, but as of the last couple of years this age group includes all WWll vets and therefore is attracting a lot more press attention.
    As an example this year, because of the above mentioned reasons, the WWll veterans will be 'marching' /riding on vehicles 'en bloc' rather than marching proudly under separate unit banners.
    That means, on a more personal level, that I have only got 14 Anzac Days left in me before I too am deemed an insurance risk and can no longer march. I wonder whether I will still be allowed to drive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zulu Delta 534 View Post
    70 years of age has been the age limit set for quite some time by the Insurance Companies, but we never noticed it as it really only affected a minority, but as of the last couple of years this age group includes all WWll vets and therefore is attracting a lot more press attention.
    Glen
    I doubt if there is a WW2 veteran under 80 and the majority of survivors are now over 85. Vietnam veterans are now aged from 60 to 90.
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    Add to the above that Korea veterans are over 75.
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    i had a coversation similar to yours with my friend whos dad owns a range rover i had to explain it is a land rover range rover land rover being the brand and range rover being the vehicle

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    Quote Originally Posted by zulu Delta 534 View Post
    Unfortunately the 'Elf and Safety' issue has declared quite some time ago that military vehicles were unsuitable for the carrying of troops, hence our soldiers are nowadays carried to battle in coaches or aircraft that are fitted with seatbelts rather than in the back of a Land Rover or truck, so it is a natural progression that from the Military's eyes, if they can be sued for carrying their own, how open are they to legal action if they carry someone else.
    "Funny" (or should that be moronic??) - safely coached into combat (so the Govt/Commander doesn't get sued) to be shot at....
    Show's how ridiculous these laws are getting. Has anyone seen the Chain of Responsbility for logistics??!
    Sorry - my pet hates. Back to the ANZAC Day topic...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenianEel View Post
    Did anyone actually "read" the article?
    The gist of it is that the CO at Karakatta Barracks, wouldn't release any of the ADF Landies.
    That's it.
    A stupid decision, but it won't stop Landies in parades, private or otherwise.
    Why not? Was he afraid a local war might break out and he'd need them ?
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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