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    Quote Originally Posted by woody View Post
    This is not an isolated thing it's a generational flaw and a sad indictment on our society. The youth of today do not have to think, we live in a bubble wrapped nanny state that tries to protect these kids by not letting them choose their consequences. And as such they have not had the opportunities in life to develop the thinking skills of forward planning or appreciations on their actions. When was the last time you witnessed our youth being challenged both mentally and physically at the same time. What we took for granted as kids (ie camping, fishing, bushwalking etc) is only available to a few now days and only because we had exposure to it as a kid.

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    I thank and salute all those who serve the community.
    I also think we need to include the video babysitter in this argument, since the VCR was commonly available parents have chosen to use the VCR (and subsequently the DVD) with Kids videos to occupy the time of their children. Children don't get to interact with their parents they learn to interact with the video screen and they then move onto video games, Playstations, GameBoys, XBox, Wii etc.

    The other generational thing are organisations like the Scouts, in the middle of the last century and when a lot of us were kids parents had confidence when they sent their boys off on a scouting trip, where they would learn the skills you suggest are missing today. In this new millennium, people don't send their kids to Scouts because there is all this belief that Scout leaders are paedophiles.

    These are real problems for our society and any wonder that the kids can be fertile soil for the radical elements of religion.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    actually I did the RFS induction the other day which gives us the card and the ability if safe enough to enter a fire ground..

    for us its about going in to move/ rescue animals stock that kind of thing.

    It was a really good course well worth it and I learnt so much that can just help me if we were to be subject to a bush fire at our house
    Sorry to say Lou living at Thirlmere it's more a case of 'When' not if.
    Make sure you have a bushfire survival plan for your family.

    Martyn
    RFS member since 1971.

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    Bushie you wernt up in the mountains at the HR today were you

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE BOOGER View Post
    Bushie you wernt up in the mountains at the HR today were you
    Not me

    I was driving Newcastle back to home mid morning today. We were making our own smoke today .

    Martyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by numpty View Post
    Was a member of the NSW Bushfire Brigade from 1977 to 1992, then moved to Qld and (sorry to all those Nth of the border) at that time Qld was so far behind, I didn't wish to belong.

    Have been a career (?) Aviation Firfighter since 1987 and will be moving again shortly and intend taking up with the Rural Fire Service once again.

    And I'm older than the HH's.
    Well passed my ABK [Aviation Basic Knowledge] exam as well as Safety Induction [O H & S]. All members of our Northern Rivers Support Brigade have to do Safety Induction, even though many have been members for decades.

    Glad to see a number of forum users are in brigades, but my urging people to think about joining one was written for those who are not involved, not for those who are already involved, or have retired from their brigade [though those who have retired due to health reasons could perhaps find other areas, such as communications that they still could do].

    Last season our Norther Rivers area sent members out of area, to another NSW area, to help this other area to fight fires. In that particular area they had only one woman doing communications for the whole fire district. After doing a 19 hour shift she packed up and went home--wise move, she could have made fatal mistakes if she kept going. So some areas desperately need more support Volunteers.

    But in that other area we had members of our Northern Rivers communications team out on trucks fighting their fires, who were then called back in to there headquarters to take over all the communications. It was a bit of a shambles as this other area were not organised, did not even have basic resources like T-cards available to the communications team.

    A number of our volunteers said they would never go back to that that particular NSW Country area to fight fires again, as they were so disorganized and inefficient, to the extent that they made it dangerous for our teams.

    But that NSW area is an exception. Our communications team has been training people from other districs, to bring them up to standard. [personally I could not make the last communications workshop, as it was on the day of the week when I am never available for training, but we are planning another Communications Workshop, and I hope to get to that next one.]

    So many fire areas are in desperate need of help. Great for all you guys who are in well organised brigade areas--mainly areas that have regular big fires, but sadly way too many other areas are not organised--or do not have sufficient volunteers.

    Except for our RAFT team, our Northern Rivers team are well organised--our RAFT has only seven members, and you have to be very fit, etc. for that Remote Area Fire Team.

    Northern Rivers have sent teams down to Canberra, Victoria, Snowy Mountains, and Sydney, etc. fires in the past, so we are willing to help other areas. But do expect basics to be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treads View Post
    I have a regular scribe now as the workload for one Group Officer is too much. When I was the DivCom at the Brooms Head Fire last year I had a driver and a scribe.

    Trying to control strategies and movements of 25 tankers + having 7-8 aircraft available means a high workload. I had 2 Sector commanders; however one was somewhat lacking in experience, which hindered me.

    It's good that some people who would not generally be front-line firefighters are getting in and helping in these support roles

    You have one of our ex-vols up there as your CSO

    Oh, and it's been the Rural Fire Service since 1997, not the Bush Fire Brigades
    This was also written for People of this forum outside NSW, where they do not call it RFS. But I appreciate your input.

    Oh and I think sitting in a group vehicle next to a group officer will be great job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numpty View Post
    Was a member of the NSW Bushfire Brigade from 1977 to 1992, then moved to Qld and (sorry to all those Nth of the border) at that time Qld was so far behind, I didn't wish to belong.

    Have been a career (?) Aviation Firfighter since 1987 and will be moving again shortly and intend taking up with the Rural Fire Service once again.

    And I'm older than the HH's.
    Hope you move to our area then--we would love your input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnF View Post
    A number of our volunteers said they would never go back to that that particular NSW Country area to fight fires again, as they were so disorganized and inefficient, to the extent that they made it dangerous for our teams.
    I'd like to know which Zone you speak of, although I have my ideas

    You can PM me the answer if you like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treads View Post
    I'd like to know which Zone you speak of, although I have my ideas

    You can PM me the answer if you like
    PM sent.

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    Of to do the RFS first Aid course this Sunday. Every one should do a First Aid course of some sort every ten years or so [you are only accredited for a couple of years if you need acreditation, say for work.] Ideally you will update First Aid skills every 3 years.

    Later in year I hope to do a Communications Workshop with the RFS--there are only 12 places in this workshop. I have e-mailed a request for one of these places. Have put down for a Air base course next year also. Do not know where, do not know when as yet. Was just asked if I wanted to do Air base and said "yes please."

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