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    Cooking with Diesel

    I need to use my lantern last night in a hurry and found that the base had rusted out from putting it away covered in wet sand two years ago.

    So a quick trip to Bayswater Anaconda to get a Coleman Shellite one. Nup, couldn't bring myself to join the sheep crowd, but ended up buying the top of the line hard anodized Trangia Stormcooker instead.

    Trangias are excellent as anyone who owns one will know, but the metho burner is a little bit weak.

    So I order this off Ebay:



    Which allowed me to install my Optimus Nova+ multifuel into a set of Trangia windshields.

    The burner unbolts from the tripod frame (left)...



    ... the adaptor bolts on, and the burner clips into the Trangia base:




    There's a fibrous wick under the burner which allows you to prime the vaporiser using the fuel in the tank - ie, negating the need for methylated spirits. Whilst it works well, it can be a little sooty on kero/diesel.

    Much cleaner to use metho and the TW Sands bottle fits neatly through the hole in the side and reaches all the way into the priming cup. The cup holds a fair bit too which helps to start cold diesel in one go.



    Priming flames:



    Crack the valve:



    Lovely. Burning hot, blue, no soot.

    And finally a solution to the roarer burner. Optimus don't offer a Silent burner on this particular model. I stumbled across the website of a US based stove restorer who has invented a silencing cap like the old Svea/Optimus/Primus burners to fit this model stove. He is backlogged eight weeks, but mine should be arriving soonish!

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vERteuBE_NQ"]YouTube- NovaDawg Silent Damper on Nova+ burning kero[/nomedia]

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    Good advice but, well, I have been using Trangias for years, if not decades. Since my earliest scouting days, actually. I have been using them in all conditions, from soaring summer heat to arctic cold and even heavy winds. They have never let me down! I only use the standard methylated spirit burner, which, admittedly gets somewhat difficult to ignite when the temperature drops to -10 degrees or lower. But with persistence, long matches and possibly prewarming the fuel I always succeeded. Cooking times are longer as well, of course.
    Although our scout brigade's cookers are now modified to accept gas cans, I, on my own cookers, always use the spirit burner which I consider much superior for it's cleanliness, quietness, ease of use and minimised environmental impact. It is less dangerous, too. On all trips where my mates are using their either gas or petrol/kerosene fired burners I am the laughing one as I don't have sooted cookery gear, no problems with bulky cannisters or smelly fuel and can stow away my "kitchen" in minutes and even carry it around on extended walks/hikes.
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    That looks very neat! I like what you've done there.

    Now you've got me thinking about what I'll do when I give up on using the campfire on Scout hikes.
    Yep. It'll have to be a custom stove.
    (Not going to use Trangia bits though, they're just not me )


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    gasser

    mate dont now if your aware but trangia do a gas /burner..that slots straight under the stock base ...good kit ......... as u prob know simmering performance is far superior to spirit pressure.

    yes i know there is a bulk issue ,,,,, and i have a nest of pressure burners growing in a back wardrobe,took me years to cross to gas but for hiking /mc touring its just the ticket,,paticularly if u like to cook up a stew or more complex feeds other than beans!!!


    recently upgraded from a 28 yr old teflon coated trangia kit ,, god knows i must have the bulk of the teflon still lingering in my intestines..........to the new non stik!!......... cheers

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    If you are using the spirit cooker in your trangia and the pans are getting black on them, try adding 10% water to the metho. Stops the black marks

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    Wow that is way advance what is wrong with my old fold up hexamine stove???
    More like what is right with it ...I reckon I couldn't use that in the middle of summer could I ?

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    The silencing cap[s] turned up today. Wow I wish had metal-working skills like that! Beautifully made. All the little holes are hand drilled and the brazing is very clean.

    It's rather well designed internally. There isn't a vaporiser tube on Optimus burners, heat is transferred via six fins into a labyrinth of gas chambers where the fuel is vaporised (which is what makes them so good). The new caps redirect enough heat downwards, but I'm sticking with Shellite to keep them clean.


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    These aren't diesel fuel cookers. THIS is a diesel fueled cooker...


    51 litres a week.
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    For inside a boat

    These Wallas stoves and heaters are meant for boats, but I can't see why they couldn't be used in a camper or slide on.

    http://www.marineplantsystems.com/re...ers/Wallas.pdf



    Taking diesel direct from the vehicles diesel tank, will hardly use up any diesel as these stoves only use 0.09 to 0.19 litres per hour.
    With the camper pod I am planning for the back of the defender, it would then benefit from the extra space made available by not carrying a LPG bottle.

    What do others think about these type of stoves?
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    190ml fuel/hour? that is most excellent.

    Love the idea but I wonder why these diesel units are not more widespread. Most larger boats and almost all yachts have diesel motors and gas is so dangerous (hence the spirit burners)

    I imagine they are not popular because of the problem starting such a burner will always be more involved than a gas stove. (Notice the one featured also needs a 12V supply)

    Actually I am looking for an M1950 ex-military stove. Not sure how much I will end up using it but have always wanted one.

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