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    Synthetic rope

    Looking to change my wire rope.
    Roughly whats it worth? ARB $457 for 35meters.
    Im sure the spend thrifts can do better than that????.
    Cheers Dean.

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    what size/brand rope are you looking at? I was in at ARB Kilsyth yesterday trying to eyeball a d3 bar without success and saw they had 35 meters of 12mm dynema for about $450. That is a good price. Normal price (not arb's nomal price) for that is $888. The comp guys started on 10mm rope and then moved up to 12mm.

    8mm rope is usually about $13 per meter
    10mm rope is usually about $16.50 per meter
    12mm rope is usually about $25.50 per meter

    I think the rope that tigerzz distributes is cheaper however I dont know how it compares on quality.

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    check marine shop prices

    My brother is a yachtie and was gobsmacked at some of the prices for rope that 4x4 folk pay when he knows of commercial fisherman that pay far less for what he thinks is the same material. I realise commercial fishermen would by bulk but after his comment I thought if ever I wanted synthetic rope I would check this out so maybe those on the coast should maybe check out commercial boat chandelry shops.

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    Tigerz11.com.au

    $289 for 30 m of 9 mm
    $310 for 28 m of 10 mm

    Quote Originally Posted by trobbo View Post

    I think the rope that tigerzz distributes is cheaper however I dont know how it compares on quality.
    Tigerz11 claim their rope is dyneema


    Quote Originally Posted by windsock View Post
    My brother is a yachtie and was gobsmacked at some of the prices for rope that 4x4 folk pay when he knows of commercial fisherman that pay far less for what he thinks is the same material. I realise commercial fishermen would by bulk but after his comment I thought if ever I wanted synthetic rope I would check this out so maybe those on the coast should maybe check out commercial boat chandelry shops.

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    Yes but it isn't any old run of the mill rope/sheet/hawse.
    http://www.biasboating.com.au/p-2157...inch-rope.aspx
    BIAS Boating list 7 mm Dyneema for what works out as $9.64/m. Tigerz11 sell 9 mm for $9.63/m.

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    Hope your winch is suitable for synthetic rope !
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Yes but it isn't any old run of the mill rope/sheet/hawse.
    Dyneema (Spectra) Winch Rope
    BIAS Boating list 7 mm Dyneema for what works out as $9.64/m. Tigerz11 sell 9 mm for $9.63/m.
    Yep figured that, also figured my bro knows the difference between a manilla hawse and a synthetic fibre... he uses synthetic ropes on his yacht day to day... just saying is all. He knows people that use it all day every voyage to make a living. A lot of the development of synthetic ropes came from the marine/fishing industry so I would make it my business to know what they can offer if I was looking.

    Quality of manufacturing could well be the difference in price you state (could be many things actually). Plenty of scope to get a good fibre (Dyneema) made into a cheap rope... just like winches really... Caveat emptor and all that.

    Way i figure it. We winch (periodically) out of holes for fun so safety is our only concern. Fisherman winch tonnes of fish out for a living and not only is safety a concern but so is their livelihood. Yachties at sea rely on ropes for their lives. I would still look at ship chandelry places for prices at the very least.

    EDIT: Yes, it is also important to make sure your winch is suited to synthetics and that it does not heat the rope up too much.
    Last edited by windsock; 10th June 2010 at 10:17 AM. Reason: Agree about suitable winch

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    Quote Originally Posted by windsock View Post
    Yep figured that, also figured my bro knows the difference between a manilla hawse and a synthetic fibre... he uses synthetic ropes on his yacht day to day... just saying is all. He knows people that use it all day every voyage to make a living. A lot of the development of synthetic ropes came from the marine/fishing industry so I would make it my business to know what they can offer if I was looking.

    Quality of manufacturing could well be the difference in price you state (could be many things actually). Plenty of scope to get a good fibre (Dyneema) made into a cheap rope... just like winches really... Caveat emptor and all that.

    Way i figure it. We winch (periodically) out of holes for fun so safety is our only concern. Fisherman winch tonnes of fish out for a living and not only is safety a concern but so is their livelihood. Yachties at sea rely on ropes for their lives. I would still look at ship chandelry places for prices at the very least.

    EDIT: Yes, it is also important to make sure your winch is suited to synthetics and that it does not heat the rope up too much.
    All well and good, but you seem to be implying that any synthetic rope would do the job...?

    My point was, that all the Chandlers which have websites and prices listing are MORE expensive for suitable (dyneema/dynamica/spectra) rope. If you can find a chandler which sells it for less I am sure everyone would be interested, but I cannot.

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    Bought 9mm rope from the shipping suppliers, including splicing on the non-slip eye and a hook. $8.50/m (plus GST). Came straight off the reel, spliced then and there.

    Buy branded and you pay extra.

    This is braided dyna-whatsit. Yellow, not blue but who cares. Oh, and he supplies a number of winch challenge teams with 11mm of the same type.
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    An implication is easier to draw that it is to make. I wasn't trying to imply anything.

    Just pointing out an observation my bro made to me that may or may not save someone some money if they can be bothered to read my first post for what is was. A suggestion.

    A suggestion of an alternative place to look as per the original post...

    Im sure the spend thrifts can do better than that???
    I am watchful of what I spend. I have spent money at ARB for stuff only they can sell. For other stuff I use on the trail I go to those places that sell it commercially. Steel rope and shackles I go to an industrial rigging outfit. For my spade pick and pry bar I went to an agricultural shop. For leather gloves I went to an engineering shop. My tyres came from a tyre shop. For the steel tube I have used to make stuff I went to a steel wholesaler (and so it goes). IF I was on the look out for synthetic rope I would look to places that sell it to an industry that uses a whole heap more than we do as wheelers.

    My original post made mention of 'commercial'. Most commercial ports have chandelry/rope lofts and most likely they'd have the exact same product as 4x4 folk use but not all of them would bother with websites (so by implication, not all prices would be online). Just saying....

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