Thread: Did they muck up?

I just had to google what a Tifor was. To anyone wondering, its a hand winch. I haven't heard of Tifor, I guess I don't research hand winches!

I've seen this type scenario a few times up that way,, and have towed an un-braked trailer myself through all conditions up there,, But having said that, had the tyres to match,,
This is a good incident to help remind people about training, or at least having someone with them who knows what they are doing,, that said,, we were all new to driving/4x4ing at some point,,
But it does leave those caught up in the traffic jam mighty frustrated in the meantime,,, Hopefully they will learn from it,, although its hard when your inside the vehicle,, We had a mate that when we had digging etc to do, (for him) would head into the bush with a dunny roll and shovel,,

Hard to say, but probably down to excess speed for the conditions and inexperience.
Hard to hold on if you hit an icy patch with a dead weight on back.
Chunkier tyres would have helped, but so may have AIRING DOWN.

like wayne said, hard to say off the photo alone.

Icy patches can catch out the best of us, if it was in fact ice?

We camped in the snow up past bluff hut and certainly after a -2 or 3 overnight the snow/water (on tracks) had frozen. So much so could not walk up the track. Ran with chains until the sun sorted the ice out.

How old are you cwebb ? I thought everyone knew what a Tirfor was !


Can't believe they didn't get out and help. I woulda told 'em to, or sat down and made a coffee... and waited....

mns , where those guys are standing it was difficult to get a grip on foot

Vlad , I suppose we all could have but then no-one was going anywheres

Originally Posted by waynep

Hard to say, but probably down to excess speed for the conditions and inexperience.
Hard to hold on if you hit an icy patch with a dead weight on back.
Chunkier tyres would have helped, but so may have AIRING DOWN.

in my experience chunky tyres are a hinderence in ice more contact with the road the better airing down can assist with that

Lardy - you are correct, an allterrrain tyre with many sipes are better in the snow / ice than mud terrains in hard packed snow. Snow grips with snow, so you need a tread that actually "hangs onto" a bit of the snow to allow it to grip with the snow which provides traction. The sipes also act as little suction cups to grip on the ice. BUT in the snow conditions in Australia a mud terrain may actually be better as the snow is not all that deep or compacted and the muddies allow you to "dig down" to the surface below and get traction.
Now to the original post, Yes in hind sight they may say it was the wrong thing to do, but we all had to start somewhere and we have all made incorrect decisions when out 4wdriving its all apart of life.
I think it was wrong that they did not assist with their own recovery and would almost appear they had an atttitude that their would be some one around to help them out if things did not go well.