Cyclist aware drivers... are you one?

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24th June 2010, 05:48 PM
CJT

You know why I dont mind cyclists?

Because while we are on the subject of user pays and taxes etc. I dont see why my tax contributions should be used at hospitals for overweight associated illness.

65% of men and 45% of women in Australia are overweight. This costs tax payers approximately $800 million dollars per year in treatment of overweight and obese associated illness.
24th June 2010, 06:04 PM
rick130

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Originally Posted by Chad

Boo Hoo...

Pay rego, display a Number Plate and OBEY all road rules, if you choose to ride on the road, thats what I say...

If your bike paths are not suitable....

Easy, I think that would be the fairest way.

Then you do have a right...

Also, if I am hit by a Cyclist, when a Pedestrian, I should be able to report it, (ie numberplate), and also if you are DEEMED as a Vehicle, which you all say you are, and the letter of the Law states it too, Where is your Personal Accident insurance if you hit someone? And injure them?

Thats what I don't get. Would you be happy if I was Driving my VEHICLE without insurance cover, at least 3rd Party, in Case an ACCIDENT happens, and i hit yoy, your car, your property etc....

Mark my words, it won't be long till Cyclists, pay rego, and wear plates...

Then, they HAVE the rights of a VEHICLE.....

So you either don't respect the law, or think you are above the law, as at the moment a cyclist has the same rights as any other vehicle.

If you came across a mob of sheep or a herd of cattle, I'd take it you'd plough straight through as they have no right to be there ? the roads is for cars and trucks only ?

Guess what, they are allowed on the road too and are a common occurrence in these parts, as are the stockmen on horses or quads moving them, all sorts of ag gear like tractors, tractors with gear hanging off the back, headers, etc which all move none too quickly.

You wouldn't last two seconds around here, a little respect and patience goes a long way.
24th June 2010, 06:14 PM
rick130

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad

Boo Hoo...

Pay rego, display a Number Plate and OBEY all road rules, if you choose to ride on the road, thats what I say...

[snip]

this is the crux of the matter for you, isn't it ?

Someone is getting away with something that you can't !

It's straight out envy !
24th June 2010, 06:23 PM
Chad

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJT

You know why I dont mind cyclists?

Because while we are on the subject of user pays and taxes etc. I dont see why my tax contributions should be used at hospitals for overweight associated illness.

65% of men and 45% of women in Australia are overweight. This costs tax payers approximately $800 million dollars per year in treatment of overweight and obese associated illness.

Go to a GYM..... Easy
24th June 2010, 06:28 PM
Chad

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Originally Posted by rick130

So you either don't respect the law, or think you are above the law, as at the moment a cyclist has the same rights as any other vehicle.

If you came across a mob of sheep or a herd of cattle, I'd take it you'd plough straight through as they have no right to be there ? the roads is for cars and trucks only ?

Guess what, they are allowed on the road too and are a common occurrence in these parts, as are the stockmen on horses or quads moving them, all sorts of ag gear like tractors, tractors with gear hanging off the back, headers, etc which all move none too quickly.

You wouldn't last two seconds around here, a little respect and patience goes a long way.

No problem with that...

wouldn't worry me in the least, as the are doing something PRODUCTIVE...

Like I posted earlier, i have no problem with a Cyclist getting from A-B, riding in single file, obeying the ROAD RULES, and Having commonsense...

Sorry but your other explanation don't cut it...

how bout,

A farmer decided that Crossing the road wasn't good enough for him or his sheep/cattle whatever it may be, so he would divide them up into 2 lanes, taking up half the road, and just walk around, in his Tight Underwear because he decided thats what he wanted to do for the day??

That would equal my previous comments, if you choose to read them..

Thanks Chad
24th June 2010, 06:33 PM
brizmatt

cycling

I have always been amazed at the attitude of road users in Australia- cars hate trucks, trucks hate cars, everyone hates 4wds with bullbars bit we are talking about 25 kg cycles- they can not hurt you. Where does this animosity/bullying come from? What is the issue if you have to wait for a minute before you pass them? If cyclists do the wrong thing, they get hurt, not the other drivers. Whether people like it or not, it is the way of the future.
24th June 2010, 06:35 PM
Chad

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick130

this is the crux of the matter for you, isn't it ?

Someone is getting away with something that you can't !

It's straight out envy !

Mate i will be honest i do envy alot of things, but.....

Following a GUY looking at his Bum in tights isn't one of them...

But on a serious NOTE....

Why do you believe that a NON PAYING, NON INSURED VEHICLE, be allowed on OUR public ROADS??

What part of that, cannot you understand is the Problem..

Then when the 80% of cyclists that do, the wrong thing, cut people off, speed up past pedestrians, go through RED lights, ride Between cars, lean on cars, Shall I go on...

Like posted previously, Motorists prob aren't much better, but at least the Police, etc.. are trying to stop the IDIOTS...at the Moment you all have free reign to do what you like, and most of you do...

Anyways, i have learnt from living NEAR Public Servants, and the TYPICAL cyclist, that we can Never reason with them...

As clearly shown here.....

If you are so LAW abiding, ALL about EXERCISE and it is YOUR right to be on the road....why NOT CONTRIBUTE to the upkeep, keep yourself insured, and follow Common sense and RESPECT....
24th June 2010, 06:44 PM
big guy

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Originally Posted by Tombie2

Well written Thommo. Well thought out post.

And a cyclist leaning on my vehicle is never going to be a good situation for the rider! I've had this a few times and it's always ended with the cyclist copping a smack in the head...

Tombie- you are a very clever man, you are saying that a cyclist leaned on your vehicle and you smacked him on the head.

Why, its not called for.
I have seen many a fight break out by silly incidences like this.
Never underestimate a person, a smack in the head is assault, do it to the wrong person and you will have your hands full.
I have seen it a few times on the road and many times in my bar.
Its not worth it, please take my word for it.

Let it go and be happy, I know from your many posts that you are smarter than this, how quickly things can turn nasty when one gets assaulted is more amazing than the facts some are quoting here on how some cyclists are behaving.
24th June 2010, 07:06 PM
big guy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad

Mate i will be honest i do envy alot of things, but.....

Following a GUY looking at his Bum in tights isn't one of them...

But on a serious NOTE....

Why do you believe that a NON PAYING, NON INSURED VEHICLE, be allowed on OUR public ROADS??

What part of that, cannot you understand is the Problem..

Then when the 80% of cyclists that do, the wrong thing, cut people off, speed up past pedestrians, go through RED lights, ride Between cars, lean on cars, Shall I go on...

Like posted previously, Motorists prob aren't much better, but at least the Police, etc.. are trying to stop the IDIOTS...at the Moment you all have free reign to do what you like, and most of you do...

Anyways, i have learnt from living NEAR Public Servants, and the TYPICAL cyclist, that we can Never reason with them...

As clearly shown here.....

If you are so LAW abiding, ALL about EXERCISE and it is YOUR right to be on the road....why NOT CONTRIBUTE to the upkeep, keep yourself insured, and follow Common sense and RESPECT....

I can sense a dislike for cyclists here---Dislike to lycra clad blokes---and dislike on how we behave on the road.

Do me a favour and stay off the road. Its that simple. Move to the country, grow vegies and sit under a tree.

In the big smoke we must learn to share the road.

Don't sweat the little things mate, make it jovial or take the **** but please do not offend. Its offensive and that is worse than ignorant.
24th June 2010, 07:06 PM
CraigE

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Originally Posted by BMKal

Yes, that's correct Craig. In WA at least, an accredited pilot has exactly the same powers as a police officer when it comes to directing traffic whilst in control of an oversize load (as do authorised lollypop operators at roadworks sites etc - fail to stop at the lollypop when directed to do so and see where it gets you). But unfortunately, the reporting of "offences" is only really possible when you can quote a recognizeable means of identification, such as a registration number.

Having mentioned one of the examples of problems I have had with cyclists while in this job, to be fair I should also mention that I had far more frequent problems with complete muppets driving cars on the roads in relation to oversize loads. You wanna try blocking off all traffic (in both directions) on the bridge at the bottom of Greenmount. Yes, there is plenty of room for them to pass (especially in the opposite direction), but when the load is above a certain weight (axle loading) it is illegal for the load to be on the bridge at the same time as any other traffic (in case the bridge fails). Often the easiest way to do this is to call up a large truck approaching from the opposite direction and ask him to swing across the road a bit and block both lanes for you. ;)

I do know its not much fun to be on a road directing traffic or worse attending accident scenes when clowns just do not slow down or give way. Same even on mine sites when doing similar or instructing users or even breath testing.

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