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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeslouw View Post
    Yep. To a certain extent.

    Each ship delivers semi-refined fuel. Each company gets a load of light crude and they then process accordingly.
    I very much doubt if shipping companies ship pre-refined petrol: petrol has more explosive force than dynamite, ounce for ounce.....

    The companies (BP, Caltex, Castrol, etc) each refine or receive refined fuel from a 3rd party: BP might even buy "raw" petrol from Caltex to reduce the cost of having to set up a refinery.

    They will then add their additives and sell the petrol to us.

    Same happens with diesel, paraffin, kerosene, etc.
    There are only a handful of refinaries in the country, and to a great extent one refinary will supply more than it's own company, eg Shell may be supplying Shell, Caltex and BP at location A, but through contra deals in other locations it all balances out. More fuel, motor spirits and diesel is delivered, ready to use, by ship than part refined oil. All fuels from Nanutarra to Mackay are delivered from Singapore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeslouw View Post
    Yep. To a certain extent.

    Each ship delivers semi-refined fuel. Each company gets a load of light crude and they then process accordingly.
    I very much doubt if shipping companies ship pre-refined petrol: petrol has more explosive force than dynamite, ounce for ounce.....

    The companies (BP, Caltex, Castrol, etc) each refine or receive refined fuel from a 3rd party: BP might even buy "raw" petrol from Caltex to reduce the cost of having to set up a refinery.

    They will then add their additives and sell the petrol to us.

    Same happens with diesel, paraffin, kerosene, etc.
    Castrol does not sell or make fuel. They are lubricant company owned by BP.
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    Here we have diesel arrive by ship, not sure for petrol, but there are large storage tanks. From memory BP supply petrol and Shell supply diesel. Caltex / Woolworths just by from them. But my understanding speaking to some delivery drivers is that additives may be added at the station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    Here we have diesel arrive by ship, not sure for petrol, but there are large storage tanks. From memory BP supply petrol and Shell supply diesel. Caltex / Woolworths just by from them. But my understanding speaking to some delivery drivers is that additives may be added at the station.
    We used to add additive to the truck compartment if we remembered. Very hit and miss with measurement and memory.
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    I always try to buy diesel from outlets that have a higher turnover of the fuel. Means there is a slightly lower chance of picking up diesel bug and any other contaminants are being disbursed amongst a lot of people... Truck depots are good. I also use an additive once in a while to keep the diesel bug at bay and this also boosts the cetane so I know what good 'bang' feels like.

    Over here in New Zealand, Gull Diesel from WA is reasonable and is usually always cheaper. I haven't noticed any problems with it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by land864 View Post
    I had heard that BP Ultimate Diesel was the best available.

    Guess what. They don't sell it in Vic

    I used the BP Ultimate unleaded in the litle 2 seater and have to say that the performance seemed noticibly better than the other Performace Unleadeds available.
    BP Ultimate gets me about 100kms further with day to day city/hwy and better again when its all hwy driving.

    The regular shell was my next choice. But if other suppliers are starting to sell premium diesel then it's worth giving it a go.

    That's my 2 cents

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    Dont touch catlex due to their alliance with woolworths. I stick to shell and bp but cant really say whether either gives me better range or economy. Might be doing a big road trip soon so might give this a little test.

    Might go BP on the way up and Shell on the way home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midal View Post
    I totally agree.
    I dont! When I was dealing with the boffins at Holden and Mitsubishi in Adelaide we often spoke of the engine troubles experienced in Perth!

    Perths fuel was different, and often caused pinging and more problems than anywhere in the country.

    Your fuel was different


    As for placebo effect, I regularly drive to Adelaide, cruise on, highway mode... Then turn around and come home hours later...

    Shell gives mileage on par with BP Ultimate, but Caltex gives less by a noticeable margin every time.

    Caltex petrol here, if we put it in the wifes old Vitara, makes it run like a dog.
    No placebo, continually observed...
    I even fuelled it up because I had a docket once, dropped it home.
    That evening the wife said "You put Woolies fuel in didnt you"...
    The car was running like a dog.

    A bottle of octane boost made it liveable for the week. But we wont put it in again.

    As for fuel in our area....

    United has a truck come to see it every few days branded "United" they also fill the Mobil station.
    Shell has a "Shell" branded tanker..
    BP has a BP branded tanker
    Caltex has an unbranded tanker come to town.

    I know one of the tech guys at Mobil Port Stanvac (now closed) told me they blended to clients requests....

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    The name on the truck is no indication of the fuel source. United (and their ilk) do not refine and are at liberty to purchase from any supplier, usually the cheapest terminal gate price. I have regularly loaded a Caltex truck at a BP terminal. Differences in fuel quality are far more likely to be due to the retailers' fuel hygene.
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    I took my Defender in to a Diesel specialist in Dandenong some years ago and he asked where I filled it because the fuel was suspect.
    I asked him where I shouldn't fill it and he wouldn't answer because of the potential for someone to sue him (?!) so I turned the question around and asked where I should fill it. He basically said any of the big name fuel companies were (at the time) OK but to stay away from the no-name brands because they sometimes sold heating oil instead of diesel. Apparently they had to put up a sign stating that they were doing this (the sign would be on the back wall of the ladies toilets so nobody read it).
    He then went on to show me samples of gunk that had been drained from tanks of vehicles that had come in with injector/pump issues. There were cases of injector pumps failing under warranty but Bosch taking samples of fuel and then not honouring the warranty because of the fuel quality.

    This was before all the Toluene problems with 'petrol' so quite a few years ago, I'm not sure whether much has changed with diesel.


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