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    - RANT - HID low beam conversions

    As stated in title, this is a whinge. Self indulgent perhaps, but Im hoping to just get this off my chest before I go postal and veer into the side of an oncoming vehicle at 110!

    We had to shoot down to Cairns and back last weekend, both trips were
    after dark. Just in case no-one noticed we are currently in "The Cape
    is Open" full swing, and there are lots of fourbies driving back and
    forth. On our little foray we passed numerous vehicles and trucks and also 3 fourbies with these POS blue lighted, poseur HID low beam conversions. None of these 3 have factory HID (hilux, 80series, 100series). All three events resulted in me being "night blinded" despite looking well off to the near side verge.

    Now I do a fair bit of night driving on unfenced roads and appreciate the
    need to have good night lighting. I am happiest with lots of forward light and a steel bar! It annoys me too when dipping from high with spots to low and having that dead spot feeling. But low beams are specified not for my comfort but for other drivers safety.

    I am not sure whether it is the reflector not being made for HID resulting in the dazzle, or dirty front lenses or maybe just poor aiming - but factory HID (well assumed HID blue light on a flash car) is never as dazzling as the 4X4 conversions I have faced in the last year or so.

    So if I flash you and your tosser lights, I dont need you to hit me back with your HID high beams and HID spotties - I know you are on lowbeam... I just want you to realise you are blinding other drivers.
    Get over yourself - if one person flashes you then change your low beam
    setup, it is selfish and potentially dangerous.

    Rant off...

    Steve
    '95 130 dual cab fender (gone to a better universe)
    '10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)

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    My wife can barely see at night now that 30% of cars on the road have badly aimed low beam. Add to that the fog lamps and illegal HID conversions it's beyond a joke. Could someone please wake up the police and get them to do some night-time headlamp checking for a month or so? That should fix it.

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    The simple fact is, such HID conversions are illegal, and for good reasons, as illustrated by your experience Steve.

    Cheers
    KarlB

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    I put one of these kits in my Prado...... had it in for 2 weeks then took it out.

    It was awesome from my pov, they lit up the whole street
    I never got flashed, but I was paranoid about a cop coming the other way, would have been an instant canary.

    I think the reflectors have to be specifically made for HID. Been tempted to try the kit in my Disco but think its better to get Rigid Industries LED lightbar

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    Ahhh, I feel better already

    Zuno - you have nailed it on the head "awesome from my point of view" = essentially selfish I am glad to hear you took them out!

    I would guess that you maybe didnt get flashed by others drivers when in the city / brightly lit arterial roads as other drivers eyes are not as adjusted to the low light situation... if you were out in the black between Carbine and Lakeland I would have flashed you!

    Steve
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    '10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)

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    I think a lot of these people set up the lights with no load on, and then when they load up the back it lifts the beam.

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    G'day Roverrescue


    I fully agree with you as living in a semi rural area it is also a problem, particulary with HID conversions fitted to cars which have rubberband tyres, they bounce all over the road and constantly flash your eyes, it would be interesting to know the %age of single vehicle accidents caused by such things(bad light adjustment) as in Qld there is no yearly RWC and maladjusted/connected headlights is rife.


    BTW.here is an interesting light upgrade now available from JW Speaker in the states,LED's 7inch round,in LHD and RHD and "E11" being sold in UK now, www.jwspeaker.com not cheap but very interesting sight.


    cheers

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    You need to reach an equilibrium between the benefit to the driver and the threat to oncoming traffic. This usually precludes HID low beams (aftermarket). Just because you haven't been flashed doesn't mean its not annoying. How many women are likely to flash a bloke in a big, modded 4x4 alone at night?

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    A significant issue here is insurance cover in an accident. If you have fitted HIDs illegally and you are in an accident and the other party says they were 'blinded' by your lights, then the insurance company will wipe you quicker than you can wipe your bum. You will have no cover for the damage to your vehicle and the other poor bugger (who you temporarily blinded) may end up in a bit of an insurance limbo as his/her insurance company sues you to recover the damage incurred by their client. You could loose your house. Worse for you could be if some one was seriously injured or killed in the collision. After all, you have caused an accident, seriously injuring some one, by knowingly driving an unroadworthy vehicle.

    KarlB

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    Quote Originally Posted by B92 8NW View Post
    How many women are likely to flash a bloke in a big, modded 4x4 alone at night?
    I wish they would !!
    Scott

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