Rego question

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

I had a look at your RTA web-site, JD. The only vehicles not subject to the new charge are a select few hybrid drive cars, vehicles weighing under 975 kg, and various pensioner and carer concessions. Just a sneaky increase in registration charges to almost every motorist, not just rural dwellers. Not many cars under 975 kgs these days.

Do you think any new government will actually remove any income producing initiatives? They will probably dream up a few of their own. A governments desperate need for money will not change with new incumbents. A new government will need more, what with jobs for the boys, payback for big business donors, pork barrelling in marginal electorates, worthless make-work projects that will never be completed or any use but are good for publicity, etc.

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I'm sure you are right, and no new government has ever scrapped a predecessor's tax that I can think of. And they will still need it to pay for the current government's sheer incompetence. They seem to specialise in huge payouts for people who lost as a result of cancelled contracts on projects that should never have been started in the first place. There have been so many ministers sacked, transferred, or otherwise removed I have lost track. At least one, perhaps more, is in gaol.

The only reason they have lasted this long is that the opposition has managed to project an air of being even more hopeless, difficult as that might be. The current opposition at least looks, better than the government, not that that is saying much!

John

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

I'm sure you are right, and no new government has ever scrapped a predecessor's tax that I can think of. And they will still need it to pay for the current government's sheer incompetence. They seem to specialise in huge payouts for people who lost as a result of cancelled contracts on projects that should never have been started in the first place. There have been so many ministers sacked, transferred, or otherwise removed I have lost track. At least one, perhaps more, is in gaol.

The only reason they have lasted this long is that the opposition has managed to project an air of being even more hopeless, difficult as that might be. The current opposition at least looks, better than the government, not that that is saying much!

John

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Almost like Queensland except here the opposition looks even worse.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Roadworthy plus check of identification. Required to register an unregistered vehicle or interstate registration. Pink slip is roadworthy, required annually except on near new cars (not sure of the age - I've never owned one that new!) plus when selling.

John

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So you need a blue slip for an unregistered vehicle even if it was previously registered in your name - sounds like a money making exercise.

Garry

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Almost like Queensland except here the opposition looks even worse.

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We have an opposition? :o

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Originally Posted by garrycol

So you need a blue slip for an unregistered vehicle even if it was previously registered in your name - sounds like a money making exercise.

Garry

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If the rego is cancelled (expired more than 3 months) then it's cancelled from the 'registry' and has to go through the hoops to get it back on the registry.

The only saving grace is that you don't have to pay stamp duty - which you would if its a transfer of ownership (which is a load of dung anyway).

I tip I learnt from a recent RTA experience is to avoid a $96 fee for not transferring a (new) vehicle into your name within 14 days of purchase. The nice lady (after collecting $96) said I could have handed the plates in, thereby cancelling the rego and going through the blue slip process. The drama being that a registered vehicle must be transferred into a new owners name within 14 days, however an unregistered vehicle can be sold, swapped, pawned numerous times without their knowledge and they don't care...

Also, I have a Torana with personalised plates that was unregistered for about 3 years. When I went to register it I had to hand the plates in before they'd let me register it. I said, 'but I want these plates on the car'. They said, 'No. Hand the plates in'. The plates would then get destroyed and I order THE SAME plates again and I have to pay $37 for plates in the interim while those plates were being remade. Needless to say, I gave up the personal plates. It's just stupid!

Yup, the NSW RTA!

Matt.

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Originally Posted by Disco_owner

yeah Max, the Rangie doesn't get driven as it leaking oil and mind you making a mess of the driveway:D with Brake fluid leaking constantly.I might follow your advice and repaire and register it within 3 months of due date & then move it on without redoing all the mods. at least I know it would be road worthy before it goes to another home.;)

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Both blue and pink slips are really no big deal if the vehicle has been registered in NSW and is in fact roadworthy.

If it is however an older or modified vehicle registered in another state with dodgy rego renewal procedures (e.g. QLD), attempting a new registration blue slip for it in NSW can get quite messy and in some cases will be impossible.

In my opinion, the most attractive option in this case would be to carry out any repairs required for rego within the 3 month period and then try to sell it with a pink slip before that period expires.

If it doesn't sell, then you can then allow it to lapse (taking the plates off etc), remembering that if you got a pink slip for it you will also get a blue slip providing that its condition remains roadworthy while in storage. There are procedures you can use to maintain it whilst in storage.

And yes... I agree that there's an unbelievable amount of stupidity in state government bureaucracy generally (and federal govt too for that matter)

Pink slips are or were only valid for 28 days if they havent changed the rules..

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Originally Posted by garrycol

So you need a blue slip for an unregistered vehicle even if it was previously registered in your name - sounds like a money making exercise.

Garry

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In practice it is, but you can see where it is coming from. Once the vehicle is unregistered, it could have changed hands or, and this is probably really the excuse, the vehicle you are re-registering could have only the serial numbers in common with the one that used to be in your name, having been rebirthed. Of course, this could have happened without it getting unregistered, but the argument is that it is more likely with an unregistered vehicle.

John

A blue slip is merely an adjustment of records. There are various levels of Blue Slip in NSW.

Mostly a blue slip is a pink slip where the VIN and Engine numbers are also read and recorded.

A blue slip is also used for a change of record, say a replacement engine of the same or similar size.

It can be used for clearing a defect notice or for a range of modifications with or without engineers certificate.

All the stuff you had to take the vehicle to the RTA pits for inspection.

It's outsourcing government work.