How avoid a speed fine.....

**Ace** · 18th November 2010, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by CraigE

As said there was no evidence at all apart form a police officer word that the Lambo was doing 160 plus. The guy admitted to 130 (but of course he would not admit to 160 without a radar reading). The police should never have prosecuted this case without evidence, just shows the abuse the anti hoon laws are open to with our police.
The police vehicle GPS did not back up their claims even though it is quite likely he was doing this speed. They would have been better off just charging with dangerous driving.
I thought the Lambos had data loggers in their ECU that could have proved or disproved the speed and time????
Not condoning speed but there does have to be evidence, not estimation.
Was pretty much just a matter of time before someone actually had the money to fight one of these and rightly so the guy was awarded costs. As far as the owner seeking compensation, well I disagree with that and he should be questioning his mechanic about the way they test the cars. Should be done on dyno or test track if speed is required. I think the magistrates findings were correct without any hard evidence, but his comments about being a Top Gear nut were a bit misplaced and irrelevant.

This is true Craig, but Highway patrol officers must estimate a vehicles speed before the release radar or speed detection devices. The radar etc is there to back up the officers observations, not the other way around. I wouldnt be confident in estimating a cars speed, but highway patrol officers do it on a regular basis so are classed as experts in the field.

The comment from the judge about the Police car not being able to go as fast as a lamborghini is true, but a police car can do 160km/h so where is the issue?

**VladTepes** · 18th November 2010, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Chucaro

Just drive a Lamborghini faster than a police car

Not not you do not pay a fine but you get awarded more than $18,000 in court costs.

Have a look HERE

Now I have to make the Defender go faster

If I was the owner of teh Ferrari I;pd be charging the mechanic or his employer a daily rental rate for the days the vehicle was impounded.

**solmanic** · 18th November 2010, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ean Austral

Slightly off topic, but my wife got pulled over last night, in the rain for doing 80 in a 100 zone..The road she was on has minimal street lighting and the cop said he could fine her $80 for not doing the correct speed limit..

Night time, raining, and not well lit road, and he tells he to go faster..

WTF?!? That cop needs his head read. It's a speed limit, not a target or even a speed advisory. The only roads with enforced minimum speeds I know of are in Europe.

...technically she was doing "the correct speed limit". Anything under 100km/h would comply with that bonehead statement. What a goose!

**Hoges** · 18th November 2010, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ean Austral

Slightly off topic, but my wife got pulled over last night, in the rain for doing 80 in a 100 zone..The road she was on has minimal street lighting and the cop said he could fine her $80 for not doing the correct speed limit..

Night time, raining, and not well lit road, and he tells he to go faster..

Road Toll..What road toll..

Cheers Ean

It would get thrown out of court...she ought be applauded...the copper is obviously full of himself ...is she sure he was a real cop?

!!!

Ean Austral · 18th November 2010, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Hoges

It would get thrown out of court...she ought be applauded...the copper is obviously full of himself ...is she sure he was a real cop?

!!!

No doubt about it, shame she didnt grab his details as I know 1 of the cops in charge of road safety in Darwin, im sure he would enjoy hearing of it..
She said he came speeding up behind her and she thought it was someone hooning in the wet..as she had our daughter with her she was just about to say look at this idiot when the lights came on..

Its a shame as most cops are good people doing a hard and un-rewarding job a tosser like that just brings the whole lot down a level..

Cheers Ean

**Ace** · 18th November 2010, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by solmanic

WTF?!? That cop needs his head read. It's a speed limit, not a target or even a speed advisory. The only roads with enforced minimum speeds I know of are in Europe.

...technically she was doing "the correct speed limit". Anything under 100km/h would comply with that bonehead statement. What a goose!

She was driving to the conditions, something more people should do. Some people can over do it though, this doesnt sound like one of those case though.

richard4u2 · 18th November 2010, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by VladTepes

If I was the owner of teh Ferrari I;pd be charging the mechanic or his employer a daily rental rate for the days the vehicle was impounded.

i disagree , by law you are innocent until proven guilty , the court has proven the ferrari innocent so the owner of the ferrari is entitled to be reimbursed all cost

**ATH** · 18th November 2010, 06:37 PM

I believe the owner who is a Doctor was complaining at the beginning that this would make visiting his elderly patients difficult.

Must be the only one does his rounds in a yellow Lamborghini. (not Ferrari)
Apparently the cops also damaged the vehicle attempting to remove the computer to have it analysed and if they did, why didn't they present the evidence from this?
This was just another traffic cop beat up to show what a great job they do and I reckon the Doc and the mechanic deserve to be reimbursed all their costs.
Happy motoring in the West.
Alan.

**frantic** · 18th November 2010, 06:54 PM

Several years back a high profile business/ent./public figure appealed and was let off for speeding in ,from memory his bently ,on the freeway to canberra because "it was built to go much faster than the speed limits" was the judges quote. That has stuck in my head as the most prominent example of money and conections giving exemption from laws us "commoners" have to follow.
I'm sorry but a 1.6ton WRX Sti

is much more "safe", better handling and manoverable at 160kph than a lard arse 2.5ton bently! And it leaves a smaller crater if things do go wrong

**lardy** · 18th November 2010, 07:01 PM

God bless stupidity.
Surely it would be sufficient to indicate he sped away from officers doing xxxkph and thus he was speeding

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