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    BBQs On Natural Gas.

    Hi All,

    I'm building in a BBQ at my house and bought a new Beefearter BBQ with 5 burners. I also bought a natural gas conversion kit, since I have a gas outlet in my BBQ area. I thought that it would be good to never have to worry about needing a gas refill.

    The BBQ shop who sold me the BBQ and conversion kit said that natural gas burns hotter than normal bottled gas (LPG?)....but she didn't mention a percentage.

    The guy who is doing most of the building work has concerns about operating on natural gas. He believed that the temp can be 20% higher and that may create some issues with the built in area.

    Has anybody got any info they can share on this?

    Cheers,

    Kev.

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    You could just turn it down a bit or fit an adjustable pressure regulator in the supply pipe.

    I have converted natural gas heaters to LPG and it's mostly to do with jet sizes, then you adjust the air/fuel by trimming the air slots. If your snags explode in a ball of fire try some smaller jets maybe. Heat output depends on fuel flow rate.

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    Expecting to be corrected here but here goes anyway.....

    The difference between Natural Gas and Handi or bottle gas is the percentage mixture of butanes, propanes and pentanes as well as a smattering of other stuff as to the make up of the gas.

    Can't remember exactly but I think Natural Gas has more butane in it, as such will burn more enthusiastically, ergo you need less of it for a given temp so you need to back off the flow (as bee utey said dropping pressure, reducing jet size......) to get the temp you need.

    LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas), LPG (Liquefied Petroleum Gas) and Bottle Gas (called LPG sometimes but in reality is different to the stuff you put in your car) all have different percentage contents of various hydrocarbons and chemicals.

    In the end it all burns, and will make your sausages explode to varying degrees of success if not set up right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pando View Post
    Expecting to be corrected here but here goes anyway.....
    Right you are
    Natural gas is methane, CH4. Does not liquefy at room temperature. Available as CNG for cars (compressed to 3000psi)
    Bottle gas LPG is propane C3H8. Liquefies at -40C at atmospheric pressure.
    Auto gas LPG is propane plus butane C4H10 plus anything else the refinery thinks will burn. Butane liquefies at zeroC at 1 ATM. So don't expect your butane cylinder to work in snow or deep frost.

    LNG is cryogenically cooled, only common in supertankers etc. About 30% of the energy of natural gas is wasted to liquefy LNG but the tankers run on the evaporation of it. Unlikely to be seen in a cylinder near you.

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    I have one of each of the same Weber model
    only as I found a bargain NG Weber at at a garage sale having puchased an identical LPG one a couple of years earlier

    I reckon the LPG is slightly hotter

    could be the jets etc

    but for convenience a plumbed natural gas unit is very hard to beat for convenience and running cost..

    Cheers

    Nobby

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    all my books arre packed up again for moving but I think from memory that natural gas also runs at a lower pressure?

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    its an approved conversion.....just use it, i think we might be reading into it a little too much

    my distant memory it not about how hot it burns its about the Mj rating, pressures, pipe size, ventilation (if used in doors) etc

    the more blue the flame is the better it is for all.....

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    Why do they say that you should not use auto LPG for your car for a BBQ? Is it a tax thing or is there a risk of poisoning your BBQ guests?

    Or is it a case of more refinement required for BBQ gas? This last one is only an issue if the answer to the poison thing is yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slug_burner View Post
    Why do they say that you should not use the LPG for your car for a BBQ?
    quality,.........you might get away with it on a bbq but em pretty sure it creates havoc with heaters

    my uncle use to have an adaptor converted the pump hose at a servo to POL fitting and fill his cylinders at the servo.........crazy

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    never use a bbq indoors, the design and flame quality is not there, you will put everybody to sleep in some cases

    yellow flame is dangerous in doors........

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