Another Nissan bites the dust

Just to follow up on my comments:

Nissan will almost certainly fit the TDV6 Renault motor to the Patrol as soon as they've ironed the issues out in/on the Navara platform.

I reckon the ZD30 could possibly then fall away or only be available in the entry level Patrol models.

I strongly suggest Tata look at the same concept for the Defender: there are several independents now offering TDV6 (and I suspect soon TDV8) upgrades to the Defender. There IS a strong demand, so why not provide a solution out of the factory?

But I don't know if Tata listens any better than the previous owners......

I very much doubt that LR/Tata would increase the power in the Defender,,

as sold its pretty much perfect for its INTENDED purpose,,:cool:

Maybe, but wouldn't a detuned TDV6 offer so much more scope than a completely stressed inline 4?

Land Rover offered the 3.5V8 for EXACTLY the same reason: the public wanted a bit more power than the 2.25, but not that much that it would become silly.
So the Stage 1 with the detuned Rover V8 was conceived. This lead to the One Ten V8, the RRC, etc etc and the rest is history.

I believe that the Peugeot/Ford TDV6 in 2.7, detuned to say 130kW and 380N-m would be just bloody perfect. Fuel economy, power, torque, and a completely unstressed engine: what a pleasure.

One large Nissan dealer in Brisbane had some engines for $6000 as they know it is a problem. I had one blow the motor in front of me a week ago on the way home.

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Originally Posted by justinc

Almost definately make matters worse Matt. Unless they fit a bigger Intercooler and exhaust etc it is a pretty big bet the EGT's will be higher:eek:, believe me from what I have seen with a standard vehicle, 1000C isn't unachievable with a chip when towing/ working hard, and you KNOW what that does to turbine mettalurgy and aluminium components?????:o:o:o

ALL these vehicles should have a pyro fitted, standard OR modded. You'd be horrified to see how hot they can get.

JC

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There's something strange with the ZD30's and it's not the power levels. There are plenty of other engines (including nissans) putting out far better power/litre.
Nissans YD25 (the 2.5 litre in the current Navaras) doesn't blow it's top and it's got more power than the Zd30 combined with less displacement.

But, while we're putting the boot in, my YD25 (not commonrail) just popped it's head-gasket.:angel:

Just had word and Nissan is covering all of it. Full rebuild kit and even paying the new oils etc.
Number 3 piston has a hole and is cracked all the way through.

My mate is happy as he is not out of pocket but will go on the market same day he gets it back.

I will post a pick of piston as soon as he manages to send it to me.

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Just had word and Nissan is covering all of it.

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Great news. Must be a massive relief for him. :)

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Originally Posted by jakeslouw

Just to follow up on my comments:

Nissan will almost certainly fit the TDV6 Renault motor to the Patrol as soon as they've ironed the issues out in/on the Navara platform.

I reckon the ZD30 could possibly then fall away or only be available in the entry level Patrol models.

I strongly suggest Tata look at the same concept for the Defender: there are several independents now offering TDV6 (and I suspect soon TDV8) upgrades to the Defender. There IS a strong demand, so why not provide a solution out of the factory?

But I don't know if Tata listens any better than the previous owners......

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possible problem in Europe at least is that engines get taxed on their CC rating as well? not sure if this is still valid but a 3 litre would be taxed more and therefore be more costly on the forecourt?