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simple brick of an engine and box in the suzi varient, and will tolerate the most abuse of the lot. Not that much between a stage 1 3.9d and a county suzi on that front admittedly but then the county is that little bit newer and has the later suffixed box in it in the later years.
That said.
in reality I'll take anything thats listed its only a minor change in driver technique and in stock form theres not that much between them.
A Tdi in good condition can take anything Oz can throw at it,I know that for a fact because mines done it.The Isuzu is a good engine but it's not better than a Tdi,they are totally different but niether is better than the other.Thats my opinion. Pat
Standard unmodified ? County 4spd with with the external roof ribs.
Stage 1s are crap offroad, too much front axle tramp, lousy ariculation and turning circle,heavy yet low geared wooly feeling steering,awful brakes, particularly in reverse. County addressed all these issues. Defender 200 TDI would be next choice but would have to give the LT77 the flick. All later models are Pretenders that I don't rate at all.
Wagoo.
:eek: Thems fightin' words!!:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by wagoo
JC
I would happily swap my disco for a County isuzu in a snap but with discs not drums
Can you beat my Tdi Wagoo?,pretender hey,where have you been and what have you done?. PatQuote:
Originally Posted by justinc
....:eek:Like I said, Thems fightin' words:eek::eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by PAT303
JC
You might regret you asked that question:angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by PAT303
Just remember guys. When deciding what's best, it depends on your parameters you are looking for to suit the application.
I have a stage 1 Isuzu and it is rubbish. But it is great with 10 bodies on board, chillin at the beach.
I have a TD5 130 that is awesome for touring, but not so good as a rock crawler.
That's why I have 11 different landies. Not one is good for everything.
CC
I'm pretty sure wagoo will have plenty to say, should make for interesting reading....:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Col.Coleman
JC
Like most who own an Isuzu county, I have voted this way. I will list a few reasons why I like this model.
1. The Isuzu engine..simple, robust, no electronics, longevity and almost zero maintenance required. Don't even need a battery once it's started.!
2. 4 speed LT95 box with TRB, HD centre diff, X brake and 6X6 clutch.
3. Military Disc brake rear Sals with Maxi locker.
4. Soon to be installed military RFSV front axle with Truetrac and Jmac axles.
5. Military galvanised chassis with military bullbar and HD pto winch.
6. Turbo installation - phenomenal improvement over NA engine.
7. Thicker body panels than Defender model.
8. Stronger CV's and drive flanges.
9. Stronger rear axle lower locating arms.
10.Original underbonnet aircon setup - not quite as effective but more leg and cabin room than Defender ones.
11.Mine is an ex bicentennial model dualcab which makes it much more suitable for my needs and the aircon works better by not having to cool the rear tub section.
There is probably more that I could list and some will say that the improvements I have done sway my decision and to a certain extent I guess they do. I have not owned a Stage 1 or Defender 200/300tdi but have driven them and consider the County in Isuzu form to be the pick of them - especially off road.