Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 37

Thread: I got rear ended while teaching my son to drive

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Kallangur, Brisbane
    Posts
    1,078
    Total Downloaded
    0

    I got rear ended while teaching my son to drive

    I would be grateful of some advice as to the best way to proceed after we were rear ended while I was doing the L plate thing with my son.

    The car, a Seat Ibiza is worth about 2k bought by my son after many hours of weekend work at Big W as a school kid. The elderly gentleman that did the damage with his Merc is fully insured while we are only insured for 3rd party fire & theft.

    The debate is whether to claim or not to claim. I do not want the car written off due to economics. The car is still driveable and no glass or lights were broken but needs a bit of straigtening to get the tailgate to close. The rear wheel arch has also distorted slightly closing the gap around the back door. The worry from insurance purposes is the small wrinkle in the roof above the B pillar. The rear wheel alignment when I measured it still seems ok. I'm pretty sure that given the chance, the insurance will write the car off due to the roof being wrinkled.

    What do I do? Fix it myself & not claim? Try to claim & then lose the car maybe?

    Thanks
    + 2016 D4 TDV6

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    2,827
    Total Downloaded
    0
    If it were me, given the crease in the roof. I would claim.

    IMO this makes the car a write off and unless you are really good at panel beating and have access to straightening jigs etc, its dead and may not pass its next rego if the inspector is thorough.
    Also IMO I wouldnt want my kids in a twisted vehicle.
    Its a tough call given how hard your boy has worked to get it.
    But maybe think of it as a hands on lesson on how to deal with these things in the future. He will be better equipped to assess and make decisions if he should find himself in this situation and youre not there to help. I hope that doesnt sound like cold comfort.
    All the best whatever you choose.
    cheers

  3. #3
    VladTepes's Avatar
    VladTepes is offline Major Part of the Heart and Soul of AULRO Subscriber
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Bracken Ridge, Qld
    Posts
    16,055
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Hang on if you are only insured 3rd party fire and theft then you can;t claim.
    The only thing youc an do is to take action against his insurance company, surely ?
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


    gone


    1993 Defender 110 ute "Doris"
    1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
    1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
    1996 Discovery 1

    current

    1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400


  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Aussie Expat in NZ
    Posts
    3,451
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I would claim also.

    Further to the above, he will have difficulty selling it with that damage (even after repair.) One of the good things about cars in that price bracket is that if you look after them you can sell them for almost what you paid for - which is a huge help for the next one at that age.

    I had the same thing - my first car was rear ended (not while I was driving it) and was 'fixed' rather than being claimed. It was hard to sell it because everybody (except one guy) asked if it had been in an accident and what the damage was. You could see the warp around the rear doors (mm only). The car was fine, but it meant that I got next to nothing for it when it was time to upgrade.
    Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
    Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Aussie Expat in NZ
    Posts
    3,451
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    Hang on if you are only insured 3rd party fire and theft then you can;t claim.
    The only thing youc an do is to take action against his insurance company, surely ?
    The other driver is at fault - their insurance company pays.
    Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
    Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Back down the hill.
    Posts
    29,789
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Make the claim and retain the wreck. Have the structure repaired professionally and do the cosmetics yourself.
    If you don't like trucks, stop buying stuff.
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/signaturepics/sigpic20865_1.gif

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Dalby
    Posts
    4,011
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Claim against the other guys insurance. He will be getting his Merc done anyway no doubt.
    Then it will either get fixed or you get paid out and you buy something else.
    Don't have your son drive around in a dodgy car just because of some emotional attachment.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    East-South-East Girt-By-Sea
    Posts
    17,665
    Total Downloaded
    1.20 MB
    Make the claim directly with the other parties insurance company.

    Remember their insurance company is responsible for the damage caused by their insured, they do not have any ownership rights over your car.

    Don't let them bamboozle you with market value of your son's car that is irrelevant, they are responsible to pay for the repairs necessary to bring your son's car back to the condition immediately before the Mercedes hit it, whatever it costs to make that repair.

    Even if they pay out the car's full market value for the claim, they have no right to claim the wreck as you do not have any contract with them.

    Don't let the car be taken out of your possession and if it's at a smash repairer, instruct them that it is not to be removed except with your/your son's permission. Once the other company has your son's car you will never get it back.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Geelong, VIC
    Posts
    4,442
    Total Downloaded
    0
    What happens as far as a "write off" value in this case?
    When you have comprehensive insurance, you'd normally just claim against your own policy (even if the other driver is at fault), and let the insurance company do the dealing with the other guys insurer to get the money. Your policy has clear definitions of the writeoff value - either an agreed or market value.

    With you deal directly with the other insurance company, you've got no policy with them that states the write off value for your vehicle like you would with your own insurer. Is it completely up to them to make the decision on what your vehicle is worth (and at what point its written off for economic reasons).

    Steve

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Tumbi Umbi, Central Coast, NSW
    Posts
    5,768
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Only very slightly off topic, when you get thing sorted out, it might be worthwhile doing a few sums comparing 3rd Party Property and full Comprehensive on your son's car.

    Several years ago, I was involved in a Driver Education program for students at the end of Year 10, when most of them had only a short time to wait until they were old enough to start thinking about a car.

    Part of that program involved the NRMA explaining about insurance, including such things as Compulsory 3rd Party, 3rd Party Property and Comprehensive. (Some students were horrified to learn how much insurance would cost if their first car was a high performance vehicle.)

    Anyway, to get to the point, when the NRMA rep did some calculations, in some circumstances it was cheaper in the long run to start with Comprehensive rather than 3rd PP on that first cheap car.

    Most students assumed that it was not worth getting Comprehensive on their first cheap car. However, in some situations it worked out cheaper in the long run because 3rd PP only accumulated no claim bonus at half the rate of Comprehensive coverage. In some cases, the difference between the cost of 3rd PP and Comprehensive was more than made up for by the fact that when they came to insure their next, expensive car, they had twice as much no claim bonus. The extra no claim bonus more than paid for the difference.

    That only works for cars of a certain value and if the first car is kept for the right number of years. It was too long ago for me to remember the exact figures, you have to make certain assumptions about whether the first car will be involved in an accident and some things have changed since then, but it might be worthwhile doing the sums.

    1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
    1998 300 Tdi Defender Trayback 2006 - often fitted with a Trayon slide-on camper.

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!