Thread: Alibaba Warrinig

I always use PayPal. If they don't take PayPal I don't buy.
That said, I don't really know how much protection I get by using PayPal but reckon that a scammer most probably wont use that method of payment.


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Alibaba have an escrow service. I have never found a seller to agree to using an escrow service and have consequently never bought anything off them. Somehow a Yamaha WR450 for $1100 US delivered to Australia seemed to quack like a duck.

Following transcript is for a 2010 YZ450 for sale on Alibaba.com. Interesting read. I am still not sure what she was trying to sell me though.
Cheers
Sheridan


Ms. Meroy Liu [China (Mainland)]
Hangzhou Grandbase Garments Co., Ltd.

Sheridan Gillham: hello? (2010-12-18 05:34:36)
sally chen: hello (2010-12-18 05:35:13)
sally chen: i am here (2010-12-18 05:35:25)
Sheridan Gillham: How come a garment factory sells motorbikes? (2010-12-18 05:35:30)
sally chen: what can i do something for u ? (2010-12-18 05:35:44)
Sheridan Gillham:
I see you have some Yamaha bikes for sale (2010-12-18 05:36:05)
sally chen: we are not just do the business garment (2010-12-18 05:36:20)
sally chen: or it is a waste on alibaba for our companmy (2010-12-18 05:36:39)
sally chen: every company do hope do more and more business (2010-12-18 05:36:52)
sally chen: now understand ?? (2010-12-18 05:36:56)
sally chen: yes (2010-12-18 05:37:07)
sally chen: which modle you like ? (2010-12-18 05:37:14)
Sheridan Gillham: I am interested in either yamaha YZ or WR 450 's (2010-12-18 05:37:18)
sally chen: yz450 right ? (2010-12-18 05:37:33)
Sheridan Gillham: or WR 450 (2010-12-18 05:37:41)
sally chen: could i know how many you want to order ? (2010-12-18 05:37:48)
Sheridan Gillham:
one for now (2010-12-18 05:38:07)
Sheridan Gillham:
hello? (2010-12-18 05:39:10)
sally chen: 750usd for 1pcs (2010-12-18 05:39:18)
Sheridan Gillham:
Where do I pick it up from? (2010-12-18 05:39:32)
sally chen: send the bike to u directly (2010-12-18 05:39:46)
Sheridan Gillham:
$750 US Dollars including delivery to Australia seems too cheap for a YZ450 (2010-12-18 05:40:23)
sally chen: not (2010-12-18 05:40:37)
sally chen: shipping fee : 150usd (2010-12-18 05:40:47)
Sheridan Gillham: not? , what that mean? (2010-12-18 05:40:52)
Sheridan Gillham:
ahhh I see (2010-12-18 05:40:56)
Sheridan Gillham: How can you offer them so chap? (2010-12-18 05:41:15)
Sheridan Gillham:
Cheap? (2010-12-18 05:41:18)
sally chen: we get the bike from china factory (2010-12-18 05:41:31)
Sheridan Gillham:
But these are made in Japan (2010-12-18 05:41:42)
sally chen: i know (2010-12-18 05:41:49)
sally chen: but we do get the bike from china factory (2010-12-18 05:42:05)
Sheridan Gillham: So how can you get them from a China Factory? (2010-12-18 05:42:15)
sally chen: not come from japan (2010-12-18 05:42:17)
Sheridan Gillham:
Are they made by Yamaha? or are they a copy? (2010-12-18 05:42:32)
sally chen: copy (2010-12-18 05:42:41)
Sheridan Gillham: What if I need parts? Do Yamaha Parts fit? (2010-12-18 05:43:30)
sally chen: sure (2010-12-18 05:44:10)
sally chen: copy , copy means like the genine (2010-12-18 05:44:34)
Sheridan Gillham: Do you have a link to a website so I can view them? (2010-12-18 05:45:04)
sally chen: my alibaba website you can check it (2010-12-18 05:45:40)
sally chen: how do you find me ?? (2010-12-18 05:45:56)
sally chen: view the link (2010-12-18 05:46:10)
Sheridan Gillham: waht link? (2010-12-18 05:46:19)
sally chen: my yamaha yz450f link (2010-12-18 05:47:00)
sally chen: on alibaba (2010-12-18 05:47:08)
Sheridan Gillham:
how do I pay for the bike? (2010-12-18 05:47:10)
sally chen: banktransfer or westenunion (2010-12-18 05:47:29)
Sheridan Gillham:
Link looks to be a genuine Yamaha but you said they are made in China and they are a copy? (2010-12-18 05:47:40)
sally chen: do a copy (2010-12-18 05:47:57)
Sheridan Gillham: What about COD? (2010-12-18 05:48:31)
Sheridan Gillham:
And then I buy 5 of them (2010-12-18 05:48:49)
sally chen: if you want the genine : 3500usd (2010-12-18 05:49:03)
sally chen: sorry , we accpet the banktransfer , that is company policy (2010-12-18 05:49:31)
Sheridan Gillham:
Sorry sounds like a scam to me (2010-12-18 05:49:44)
sally chen: what a joke (2010-12-18 05:50:11)
sally chen: copy do much cheaper (2010-12-18 05:50:19)
Sheridan Gillham:
Thats what I think too (2010-12-18 05:50:21)
Sheridan Gillham:
Can I come and see you in China? (2010-12-18 05:50:41)
sally chen: yes , welcome (2010-12-18 05:50:59)
sally chen: but now we just 8pcs in the stock only (2010-12-18 05:51:22)
Sheridan Gillham:
I read so much about people being scammed on ALI Baba (2010-12-18 05:51:25)
Sheridan Gillham:
do you have other Yamaha dirt bikes? (2010-12-18 05:51:39)
sally chen: not (2010-12-18 05:51:50)
sally chen: there are hotsale for the copy (2010-12-18 05:52:12)
Sheridan Gillham: So I get get a Chinese copy of a Yamaha YZ450 for $750 USD or a Genuine Yamaha YZ450 from Japan fro $3500 USD ? (2010-12-18 05:52:55)
sally chen: not joke (2010-12-18 05:53:12)
sally chen: when u consider it clearly, you can just give me a reply (2010-12-18 05:54:15)
sally chen: but i am afraid , the time will not wait u too long (2010-12-18 05:54:32)
Sheridan Gillham:
That is ok (2010-12-18 05:54:47)
Sheridan Gillham:
I am not comfortable about your payment methods though (2010-12-18 05:54:58)
sally chen: our wholesale time will be deadline3 (2010-12-18 05:54:59)
sally chen: if that , you can find others suppliers order the genine bike (2010-12-18 05:55:41)
Sheridan Gillham: What about a deposit and the balance on delivery? (2010-12-18 05:58:21)
sally chen: add the shipping fee , the total price is 900usd , do u know ?? (2010-12-18 05:59:14)
Sheridan Gillham:
what about Escrow on Alibaba.com for Payment? (2010-12-18 06:00:22)
sally chen: banktransfer or westen union , i have told u (2010-12-18 06:00:46)
Sheridan Gillham: Then No Sale. There is no protection for me as the buyer if I use your two methods of payment. (2010-12-18 06:02:20)
sally chen: ok , we respect for our customers (2010-12-18 06:02:57)
Sheridan Gillham:
Shame for both of us as I could of offloaded alot of these bikes (2010-12-18 06:03:25)
sally chen: maybe (2010-12-18 06:04:01)
sally chen: if you want to order it really , i can accpet you pay 50% first , keep the balance ! (2010-12-18 06:04:27)
Sheridan Gillham: Sorry, I need 100% protection from my end to make the deal. (2010-12-18 06:05:10)
sally chen: the following is our company return and refund policy:
1.If any damage defect from shipping,u can get the replacement within one month for free
2.If u are not satisfied with the quality,u can get the replacement within one month for free
3.If the orders missed during the shipping,u not receive it,we will resend within 5days
4.For the above,if u do not want replacement,we can give u refund within 5days
(2010-12-18 06:06:14)
sally chen: for the first time business , in our company just can accpet the banktransfer and westenunion conditon , how we can gurante you can pay for us when u order the bike from us (2010-12-18 06:07:31)
Sheridan Gillham: Escrow on Alibaba protects both the buyer and seller so the only reason I can see that you won't accept this method of payment is that you don't actually intend to send me anything. (2010-12-18 06:07:41)
sally chen: the same fell to us (2010-12-18 06:07:39)
sally chen: my god (2010-12-18 06:08:37)
sally chen: if you feel that i have not way (2010-12-18 06:08:47)
sally chen: (2010-12-18 06:09:08)
sally chen: /:'"" (2010-12-18 06:09:25)
Sheridan Gillham: Escrow Home
You can learn more about it here (2010-12-18 06:10:16)
sally chen: i know here (2010-12-18 06:10:42)
Sheridan Gillham:
Will you accept this method of payment? (2010-12-18 06:11:24)
sally chen: sorry (2010-12-18 06:12:29)
sally chen: that is company policy (2010-12-18 06:12:38)
sally chen: anyway we have saled the copy bike a lot (2010-12-18 06:12:53)
Sheridan Gillham: Then I apologise for wasting your time (2010-12-18 06:12:58)
sally chen: we send the goods and aviod the custom , directly come to our customer hand (2010-12-18 06:13:19)
Sheridan Gillham: You don't have to keep trying to sell me the bike. I am already willing to buy the bike but not with your methods of payment. (2010-12-18 06:14:26)
sally chen: i know (2010-12-18 06:14:43)
sally chen: you can find others (2010-12-18 06:14:52)
sally chen: see u (2010-12-18 06:15:17)
Sheridan Gillham: Cheers (2010-12-18 06:15:24)

Originally Posted by miky

I always use PayPal. If they don't take PayPal I don't buy.
That said, I don't really know how much protection I get by using PayPal but reckon that a scammer most probably wont use that method of payment.


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Im the same, I have bought a few items from places in china via Alibaba and have insisted on using PayPal. Some have refused to so I told them I would shop elsewhere, some who didnt have paypal set up their own account for me. I found that some said hey wouldnt use it because of the fees for the seller. I offered to pay for the fees on top of the purchase price, cheap insurance if you ask me, and they agreed, problem solved.

If anyone has any advise on being an annoying asshole let me know

Not destructive or illegal just annoying

A friend suggested something called Warping to continually ping the remote pc but that's just boring and does nothing really

And i couldn't find it anyway